mor tagging is as i-PL

Janet Bang janet.bang at gmail.com
Sun Jun 21 19:47:47 UTC 2020


Hello,

We had a couple of questions for how to capture plurals in Spanish
transcription:

1. Plural of proper nouns

In the example below, the plural form of the proper noun in English is
noted with an "-s", but in Spanish this convention does not seem to work.
Is there a way to capture the plural form on the main line in Spanish? I
tried using an "&PL" on the main line which seems to work, but wasn't sure
if there was a more preferred option?

English only
*FAT: you know those blue *Explorer-s* ?
%mor: pro:per|you v|know pro:dem|those adj|blue *n:prop|Explorer-PL*

Spanish only
*MOT: hay *Mickey_Mouse-s* aquí.
%mor: v|habe-3S&PRES&SPEC=have *?|Mickey_Mouse-s* adv|aquí=here

Spanish with &PL
*MOT: hay *Mickey_Mouse&PL* aquí.
%mor: v|habe-3S&PRES&SPEC=have *n:prop|Mickey_Mouse&PL* adv|aquí=here


2. Plural letters in Spanish (also with two different special lexical
forms):

In the example below, the "s at s@l-s" is meant to denote that the mother
pronounces the letter "s" in English (@s), but we also wanted to tag this
as a letter (@l), and she uses the plural form. When we run MOR it doesn't
seem to recognize how to break up this form, whereas in English we are able
to get the breakdown to a plural letter. Is there a way we can tag the "s"
as 1) second language 2) letter 3) plural?

English only
*MOT: [- eng] look here we have the *s at l-s* .
%mor: cop|look adv|here pro:sub|we v|have det:art|the *n:let|s-PL*

Spanish/English
*MOT: mija, aquí las tienes las *s at s@l-s*.
%mor: co:voc|mija cm|cm adv|aquí=here pro:obj|la&f-PL=she
v|tene-2S&PRES=have det:art|el&f-PL=the *?|s at s-s *

Thank you!
Janet




On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:16 AM Brian MacWhinney <macw at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Dear Janet,
>
>     For MOR to work properly on this, you need to transcribe this as i at l-s.
> It is ugly, but for the plurals of letters, this is the way it must be done.
>
> -- Brian MacWhinney, Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology,
> Computational Linguistics, and Modern Languages, CMU
>
> > On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Janet Bang <jbang at stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I apologize, I don't believe there is anything wrong with the mor
> library. We had included the letter "i" as a noun in order to capture the
> following sentence:
> >
> > Here "i" is referring to the letter.
> > MOT: she know's all her i's
> >
> > In this example, "i" was coming up as an unknown word, and we were not
> able to do i at l's. Is there a way for us to transcribe this line to
> capture this as a plural of the letter i? Or some way to include this
> letter to our internal library to capture this as a different type?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Janet
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 4:32 PM Janet Y Bang <jbang at stanford.edu> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are running the following code to get word types:
> > freq +sm;*,o% @
> >
> > We noticed that for some instance of "is", that mor is treating it as
> is-PL:
> > *MOT: I don't think I know what a pegasus is .
> > %mor: pro:sub|I mod|do~neg|not v|think pro:sub|I v|know pro:int|what
> det:art|a n|pegasus n|i-PL .
> >
> >
> > Do you have suggestions for how we might be able to fix this
> automatically?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Janet
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Janet Y. Bang, Ph.D.
> > Postdoctoral Fellow
> > Department of Psychology
> > Stanford University
> >
> > jbang at stanford.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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