within-word coding in Mandarin transcripts

Leonid Spektor spektor at andrew.cmu.edu
Mon Oct 25 18:54:23 UTC 2021


I have to add that FLUCALC will not work correctly no matter what option you choose, because it was designed to work for English language only.


Leonid.

> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:51, Brian Macwhinney <macw at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Dear Peitzu,
>      I am not recommending replacing the main line with thhe %ort line, but rather adding the %ort line with Pinyin to support disfluency coding. There is software that can do automatic recoding of Hanzi to Pinyin.  I could discuss that with you separately, if you decide to go that way.
> 
> — Brian MacWhinney
> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, 
> Computational Linguistics, 
> and Modern Languages, CMU
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>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu <mailto:peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, Brian. I'm guessing the first option would then prevent flucalc from identifying the disfluencies since the coding is replaced. Please advise if there is a way around it. If we go with converting all samples to pinyin entirely, using the segmenter/translater command that runs in the terminal, is there any way we can at the same time convert the characters from the main tier to the %ort tier? 
>> Peitzu
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 9:14:10 AM UTC-7 macw wrote:
>> Dear Peitzu, 
>> There are two ways to do this. If you just want to do this occasionally for one or two words, you can use the form 
>> ↫g↫gou3 [: 狗] 
>> then MOR will ignore the ↫g↫gou3 and only make use of 狗. 
>> Alternatively, if you want to study phonology systematically, you can create a complete %pho tier. 
>> Your example also makes the important point that the systematic coding of disfluencies faces some challenges in Chinese and other languages with whole-character coding. I see that you are using disfluency coding for the repetition of the initial consonant. If you wanted to study this extensively, it might almost be best to create a secondary %ort line that would be the basis of a complete Pinyin transcription. 
>> 
>> — Brian MacWhinney 
>> 
>> > On Oct 23, 2021, at 1:01 AM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitz... at sjsu.edu <applewebdata://D64AD66F-DC8C-48A4-8ACF-9C834C18825A>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi, 
>> > Is there any recommended way of coding Mandarin transcripts in Chinese characters at the sound level, while still running Mor successfully? For example, initial sound repetition in 狗 (↫g↫gou3) 看 到 了. We tried replacing the character with pinyin but Mor doesn't recognize it. 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > Peitzu 
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