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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=204553417-13102004>I
wouldn't even call 'he' a 'word root' -- I would consider both 'he' and 'is' as
words, one contracted and one not. I would count both
words.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=204553417-13102004>Phyllis </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Leach,
Diane (NIH/NICHD) [mailto:leachd@mail.nih.gov] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,
October 13, 2004 5:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Brian MacWhinney'<BR><B>Cc:</B>
'info-chibolts@mail.talkbank.org';
'info-childes@mail.talkbank.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Neutralizing ending in
word list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=467434311-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Brian.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=467434311-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Well, that's a good question. I had been trying to get a count of
word roots and I had been essentially ignoring the contracted
words. The definition of word roots still seems to be up for
debate. Does anyone else want to weigh in about whether a count of
number of different word roots (types) should include both the root
word and the contracted word ("he" and "be&3S" in the case of
"he's"), or just the root of the contraction (only "he")?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=467434311-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Diane</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brian
MacWhinney [mailto:macw@mac.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 09, 2004
3:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Leach, Diane (NIH/NICHD)<BR><B>Cc:</B>
'info-chibolts@mail.talkbank.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Neutralizing ending
in word list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P>Dear Diane, </P>
<P>Sorry about the delay in responding. I guess your goal is to treat forms
like "he'd" as if they were versions of "he". You may be right that it will
be tricky to do that using the % symbols. But, before going in that
direction, I would like to think through with you and others, the logic of
the analysis. Do you really want to say that the pronoun is the root of a
cliticized form? Isn't that going against the idea that there are really two
full words being contracted here. Wouldn't it be better to use the +p option
and treat the tilde ~ for the clitic as </P>
<P>a delimiter? That was the original goal underlying the +p option and it
would seem to apply well in this case. </P><BR>
<P>--Brian MacWhinney </P><BR>
<P>On Oct 5, 2004, at 11:58 AM, Leach, Diane (NIH/NICHD) wrote:
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi folks.</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been trying to get a list of "root words"
by taking my transcripts and neutralizing the endings on the %mor
line. I was using the following command:</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>freq +u +k -t* +t*CHI +t*MOT +t%mor +s"%|*"
+s"%|*-%%" +s"%|*~%%" "*.mor.pst"</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>This works well except when I have words in the
form n|word-ENDING~CONTRACTION, such as n|dog-DIM~v|be&3S. In this
case, the result is that n|dog-DIM shows up in the word list (the
contraction was neutralized, but not the diminutive ending). I have
tried adding +s"%|*-%%~%%" to the command line and replacing
+s"%|*~%%" with +s"%|*-%%~%%", but neither of these seems to work. In
the first case, nothing changes, and in the second case, it neutralizes the
endings on the complex forms (e.g., n|dog-DIM~v|be&3S), but then I still
have the words with contractions showing up in the word list (e.g.,
n|dog~v|be&3S). </FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any thoughts about how I could fix this?</FONT>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks!</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Diane</FONT> </P><BR>
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