<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Yuriko and Brian.</div><div><br></div><div>I apologize for sending the same email again, but there was a typo in my original email.</div><div><br></div><div>The +s"* *" option doesn't work because kwal and most of the CLAN commands are word oriented. This means that they do not know about space characters between words.</div><div><br></div><div>We have implemented a different way to achieve the same result. Here is the command that will do the trick:</div><div><br></div>maxwd +x2 +d1 +g2 +c50000 +f *.cha<div><br></div><div>That is assuming that there are fewer than 50,000 utterances per file. If your have more, the just increase that number.</div><div>After that run command:</div><div><br></div><div>mlu -t%mor *.mxwrd.cex</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Feb 15, 2012, at 22:11, Brian MacWhinney wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><base href="x-msg://12/"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Yuriko,<div> This is a recurring question for child language researchers. The idea of calculating</div><div>MLU based on the exclusion of all one-morpheme utterances is a nice one. In theory, I would have</div><div>thought that I could get KWAL to search for all utterances that contained a space using a switch such</div><div>as +s"* *" and then send that all to a new file or to MLU, but this doesn't work. Maybe Leonid knows how to </div><div>get this to work.</div><div> Another (probably more useful) approach is to use DSS to measure later syntactic growth.</div><div><br></div><div>-- Brian</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Yuriko Oshima-Takane wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hi Brian and colleagues,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We would like to do a growth curve analysis on some syntactic measures<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">using the functional data analysis. MLU is not a good syntactic measure<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">for this analysis because it sometimes goes down like 1.56 -> 2.20 ->1.60 ->2.15.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">We are wondering if MLUs excluding one morpheme utterances could be<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">used for this analysis. But we are not sure how to exclude all the one<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">morpheme utterances from the transcripts and calculate MLUs. Could you<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">please let us know how to do that? Also if you know any other syntactic<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">measure which would be good for a growth curve analysis, please let us know.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Yuriko<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "chibolts" group.<br>To post to this group, send email to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">chibolts@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chibolts+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">chibolts+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>For more options, visit this group at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts?hl=en" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://groups.google.com/group/chibolts?hl=en</a>.<br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>
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