<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ying Lu,<div><br></div><div>(a)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The first error "** ERROR: unknown symbol <> found on 1 line." is probably because the first character on the line 1 is not '$' character. It might be some special control character that SALT or your text editor has inserted and CLAN doesn't recognize. The rest of the errors are due to first line not being recognized by SALTIN and as a result SALTIN can't identify speaker name code.</div><div><br></div><div>I have created a test file from your example below and here is the result from SALTIN that I get:</div><div><br></div><div>@Begin<br>@Languages:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>eng<br>@Participants:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>CHI Target_Child, INV Investigator<br>@ID:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>eng|change_me_later|CHI|||||Target_Child|||<br>@ID:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>eng|change_me_later|INV|||||Investigator|||<br>@Time Start:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>00:00<br>@Comment:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Language: English<br>*CHI:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>there is a boy whose name is tom .<br>*CHI:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>he likes swimming .<br>%tim:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>00:05<br>@End</div><div><br></div><div>It would be very helpful if you would send to me directly the "Tran1.slt" file that you used.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>(b)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The difference in MLU results is due to %mor tier not being disambiguated by POST command. If you run POST command, then you will get this CHAT file:</div><div><br></div><div>*CHI: the dog was [% ip] looking [% mv] in the beehive and 0at [% po] the mole [% u] .<br>%mor:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>det|the n|dog aux|be&PAST&13S part|look-PROG prep|in det|the n|beehive coord|and 0prep|at det|the n|mole .</div><div><br></div><div>and this MLU result:</div><div><br></div><div>MLU for Speaker: *CHI:<br> MLU (xxx, yyy and www are EXCLUDED from the utterance and morpheme counts):<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Number of: utterances = 1, morphemes = 11<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Ratio of morphemes over utterances = 11.000<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Standard deviation = 0.000<br><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 4, 2012, at 20:33 , Ying Lu wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><b>Dear Chibolts group,<br><br>I am trying to convert some SALT files and compare the MLU calculated by SALT with that by CLAN. I encounter some problems:<br><br>(a) I am using SALT 2012 Student Version. </b><br><br><b>The original SALT file is (I am using a short version sample here):</b><br><br>$ Child, Examiner<br>+ Language: English<br>- 0:00<br><br>C There is a boy whose name is Tom.<br>C He likes swimming.<br><br>- 0:05<br><br><b>But I got the following message when converting a SALT file into CHAT format using the command line "SALTIN Tran1.slt": </b><br>> SALTIN Tran1.slt<br>saltin Tran1.slt<br>Sun Nov 04 18:39:34 2012<br>saltin (07-Sep-2012)<br>****************************************<br>From file <Tran1.slt><br>** ERROR: unknown symbol <> found on 1 line.<br>** ERROR: unknown symbol <c> found on 5 line.<br>** ERROR: unknown symbol <c> found on 7 line.<br>Output file <Tran1.sltin.cha><br><br><b>The output file looks like this:</b><br><br>@Begin<br>@Languages: eng<br>@Time Start: 00:00<br>@Time Start: there is a boy whose name is tom .he likes swimming .00:05<br>@End<br><br><b>I don't understand why the errors would occur.</b><br><br><b>(b) Also, the MLU calculated by SALT is often different from that calculated by CLAN. For example,</b><br>C The dog was look/ing in the beehive and *at the mole. <b>(in SALT)</b><br><br><b>When I convert this to CHAT format, and use the MOR and MLU commands, it showed: </b><br>*CHI: The dog was [% ip] looking [% mv]<br> in the beehive and 0at [% po] the mole [% u] .<br>%mor: det|the v|dog^n|dog v:cop|be&PAST&13S^aux|be&PAST&13S<br> adj:part|look-PROG^n:gerund|look-PROG^part|look-PROG<br> prep|in^adv:loc|in^pfx|in det|the n|beehive coord|and 0prep|at<br> det|the n|mole .<br><br><b>The MLU by SALT is 11, but the Ratio of morphemes over utterances = 13 (Number of: utterances = 1, morphemes = 13) by CLAN.</b><br><br>Apparently, the MLU result by SALT is what I want. But how could I get the same result in CLAN?<br><br>Thank you very much for your attention! Look forward to your help!<br>Sincerely,<br>Ying Lu<br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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