<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Amanda,<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Currently version FLO on our server does not have +x option like KWAL does, but +x option has been added to FLO and new CLAN will be release today. The redirect option ">>myanalyses" did not work for you because FLO sends output to a file by default. If you add "-f" option to your command "FLO @ -t*CHI -t% +d -f >>myanalyses", then it will work as you expected.</div><div><br></div><div>By default the +x option does not count 0 or "xxx" or "yyy" or "www" as words, so any utterance that consists only of those symbols is counted as having zero words. If you want to exclude only utterances that have "0.", but not to exclude utterances that only have "xxx" or "yyy" or "www", then you will need to add +x"xxx", +x"yyy" and +x"www" options to the KWAL command line. Your command will be:</div><div><br></div><div>kwal +d +x>0w +x"xxx" +x"yyy" +x"www"</div><div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Leonid.</div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></span></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Aug 14, 2013, at 11:12, Brian MacWhinney wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Amanda,<div><br><div> Thanks for spotting this mistake in the manual. I see now that we changed +c to +xcN several months ago and that</div><div>this change was not yet reflected in the manual. (It is just now.) However, if you just type "kwal" you will see this description of the +xcN</div><div>switch and the related +xS switch:</div><div><br></div><div><div>+xCN: include only utterances which are C (>, <, =) than N items (w, c, m), "+x=0w" for zero words</div><div>+xS: specify items to include in above count (Example: +xxxx +xyyy)</div><div>-xS: specify items to exclude from above count</div></div><div><br></div><div>This is only for KWAL, not FLO. So you would still want to use KWAL first and then FLO.</div><div>Please give this a try. Hopefully, it can save you from relying on BBEdit in this case.</div><div><br></div><div>--Brian MacWhinney</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com">ajowen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Sorry for the confusion. I was following the instructions on page 110 of the manual <br></div>"+c Select speaker tier only if has at least Nwords or 0 for no words at all" <br></div>
I'll experiment with another method.<br><br></div>Amanda <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Amanda J. Owen Van Horne<br><a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajowen@gmail.com</a><br><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian MacWhinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Amanda,<div> KWAL never had a +c switch. I don't believe that the +c switch for FLO was designed to remove empty utterances. As I suggested earlier, for such specialized removals, you would want to use something like BBEdit or Sublime Edit. I would do this before a final run of FLO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--Brian</div><div> <br><div><div class="im"><div>On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajowen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div class="im"><div dir="ltr">So I just tried to run a similar analysis using KWAL and the +c switch doesn't seem to work in KWAL either (I both typed in my own command and copied and pasted the example for extracting speech only from 9.17.2. Does +c not work anymore? <br>
<br>Amanda <br><br>On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:41:26 AM UTC-5, Amanda Owen Van Horne wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div dir="ltr">
<font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi, <br> I'm
cleaning codes out of some CHAT files to prepare them for use in
another program - I really want one gigantic file full of adult input to children. <br><br>For the most part I've been relying on the FLO command
to create a new file of just the adult input (</span></font><span style="font-weight:normal"><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">flo @ -t*CHI -t% +d +r1 +f). <br>
</span></font></span><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></font><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br> I'd like to do a few things to improve workflow that have me stumped: <br>
<br>1) eliminate 'empty' utterances (*MOT: 0.). FLO changes it to *MOT:
. <-- +c1 seems like it might do this in KWAL (9.17.3 in the
manual) but +c doesn't do the same thing with every command and doesn't
seem available with FLO. Do I need to do a first pass with KWAL and pipe
the results into FLO? Or vice versa? <br>
<br>2) Make a list of all speaker identifiers across a series of corpus files (*MOT:, *FAT:, *URS:, etc) <br><br>3) Merge all of the output into a single file. FLO </span></font><span style="font-weight:normal"><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">@
-t*CHI -t% +d >>myanalyses doesn't work nor does +u. The first generates an empty file called myanalyses plus lots of individual files while the second yields an error message. Again should I be combinging FLO with something else to get the output I want. <br>
<br>I've been experimenting with the BATES corpus for now but hope to use more if I can sort out the above issues. <br><br>Thanks so much for any guidance you can provide.<br><br>Amanda <br></span></font></span><br>
<br><br clear="all">Amanda J. Owen Van Horne PHD CCC-SLP<br>Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders<br>University of Iowa<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><br><div><br><br></div>
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