<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Amanda,<div><br><div> Thanks for spotting this mistake in the manual. I see now that we changed +c to +xcN several months ago and that</div><div>this change was not yet reflected in the manual. (It is just now.) However, if you just type "kwal" you will see this description of the +xcN</div><div>switch and the related +xS switch:</div><div><br></div><div><div>+xCN: include only utterances which are C (>, <, =) than N items (w, c, m), "+x=0w" for zero words</div><div>+xS: specify items to include in above count (Example: +xxxx +xyyy)</div><div>-xS: specify items to exclude from above count</div></div><div><br></div><div>This is only for KWAL, not FLO. So you would still want to use KWAL first and then FLO.</div><div>Please give this a try. Hopefully, it can save you from relying on BBEdit in this case.</div><div><br></div><div>--Brian MacWhinney</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com">ajowen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Sorry for the confusion. I was following the instructions on page 110 of the manual <br></div>"+c Select speaker tier only if has at least Nwords or 0 for no words at all" <br></div>
I'll experiment with another method.<br><br></div>Amanda <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Amanda J. Owen Van Horne<br><a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajowen@gmail.com</a><br><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian MacWhinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Amanda,<div> KWAL never had a +c switch. I don't believe that the +c switch for FLO was designed to remove empty utterances. As I suggested earlier, for such specialized removals, you would want to use something like BBEdit or Sublime Edit. I would do this before a final run of FLO.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--Brian</div><div> <br><div><div class="im"><div>On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajowen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div class="im"><div dir="ltr">So I just tried to run a similar analysis using KWAL and the +c switch doesn't seem to work in KWAL either (I both typed in my own command and copied and pasted the example for extracting speech only from 9.17.2. Does +c not work anymore? <br>
<br>Amanda <br><br>On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:41:26 AM UTC-5, Amanda Owen Van Horne wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi, <br> I'm
cleaning codes out of some CHAT files to prepare them for use in
another program - I really want one gigantic file full of adult input to children. <br><br>For the most part I've been relying on the FLO command
to create a new file of just the adult input (</span></font><span style="font-weight:normal"><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">flo @ -t*CHI -t% +d +r1 +f). <br>
</span></font></span><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></font><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br> I'd like to do a few things to improve workflow that have me stumped: <br>
<br>1) eliminate 'empty' utterances (*MOT: 0.). FLO changes it to *MOT:
. <-- +c1 seems like it might do this in KWAL (9.17.3 in the
manual) but +c doesn't do the same thing with every command and doesn't
seem available with FLO. Do I need to do a first pass with KWAL and pipe
the results into FLO? Or vice versa? <br>
<br>2) Make a list of all speaker identifiers across a series of corpus files (*MOT:, *FAT:, *URS:, etc) <br><br>3) Merge all of the output into a single file. FLO </span></font><span style="font-weight:normal"><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">@
-t*CHI -t% +d >>myanalyses doesn't work nor does +u. The first generates an empty file called myanalyses plus lots of individual files while the second yields an error message. Again should I be combinging FLO with something else to get the output I want. <br>
<br>I've been experimenting with the BATES corpus for now but hope to use more if I can sort out the above issues. <br><br>Thanks so much for any guidance you can provide.<br><br>Amanda <br></span></font></span><br>
<br><br clear="all">Amanda J. Owen Van Horne PHD CCC-SLP<br>Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders<br>University of Iowa<a href="mailto:ajowen@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><br><div><br><br></div>
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