<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Zhuo,</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>CHIP adds "%chi:" dependent tier, among other tiers depending on use of +n option, to the output. This dependent tier is not a legal CHAT tier, because it is not specified in depfile.cut. You can add "+t@" option to command line to instruct CHIP to add all header tiers to the output, which will pass most of CHECK tests. If you use a text editor, like CLAN for example, and replace all "%chi:" tier codes with "%xchi:" then CHECK will not find anymore errors.. </div><div><br></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Leonid.</div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></span></div></span></div></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Nov 7, 2013, at 16:02 , Zhuo Chen <<a href="mailto:czcindy426@gmail.com">czcindy426@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hi Leonid,<div><br></div><div>I actually tried d. It only outputs the coding tiers. CHECK command will tell me some errors in the format. Do I have to manually correct those errors? I just want to make sure whether there is an option that can give me output files in perfect CHAT format. </div><div><br></div><div>Zhuo<br><br>On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:48:26 PM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Zhuo,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>The +d option does what I believe you want. If you just type command name in Commands window and press return key you will get listing of all option available and their short description.</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 7, 2013, at 15:24, Zhuo Chen <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="AY5_Vku7-dQJ">czcin...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Dear Leonid,<div><br></div><div>I really appreciate your help with the CHIP command! It runs perfectly now! I have another question to ask. Is there a way to send the output of CHIP command to an output file in CHAT format? I read the manual and d1 option does not do so because it only outputs the summary statistics. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much!</div><div><br></div><div>Zhuo<br><br>On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:02:57 PM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Zhuo,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>I can only apologize for not catching all those error myself. I really appreciate your help in letting us fix CHIP. This is the last command that we updated to the rest of CLAN's standard and it turned out to present the most challenges. I have fixed the “0” word error. Please get new CLAN from childes web site.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 5, 2013, at 21:53, Zhuo Chen <<a>czcin...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Dear Leonid,<div><br></div><div>I have a last problem with CHIP command. When there is "0" in the speaker tier, the same error message popped up. As long as I get rid of the "0", CHIP works perfectly. Actually, this problem would not have any effect on the calculation of the repetition ratio of the children, but I just want to let you know so that CHIP command will not have any more problem. I attached the file I was working on and the CLAN output file. Thank you!</div><div><br></div><div>Zhuo<br><br>On Monday, November 4, 2013 3:16:12 PM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Zhuo,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>This was another bug that got introduced when I have fixed the +… bug. Hopefully this is the last problem with CHIP. It is a very complicated program. New CLAN is on childes web site.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:40, Zhuo Chen <<a>czcin...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Dear Leonid, <div><br></div><div>The chip can now handle delimiter "+...". However, I found that if there is a note in square bracket in the speaker tier, CLAN will give me the same error message "There is not a one-to-one correspondence %mor and its speaker tier". I attached the file I was working on and the output file. Could you have a look at it? Thank you very much！</div><div><br></div><div>Zhuo<br><br>On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:05:14 PM UTC-4, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Zhou,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>There was a bug in CHIP that couldn't handle some utterance delimiters like "+...". I have fixed this bug. But, you also have an old version of Valian Corpus data files. It is important to realize the todays CLAN is linked very closely to the MOR grammar. This means that whenever you get a new CLAN you need to either get the latest version of the data from our servers or you need to get the latest version of MOR grammar and run MOR and POST yourself on your data files. New CLAN is on childes web site.</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2013, at 18:01 , Brian MacWhinney wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Zhou, <div> You are using an old version of the Valian file in question. Please get a new one from the web and see if it still has this problem. I am not able to test out your problem in detail, because you didn’t include your actual CHIP command.</div><div><br></div><div>—Brian MacWhinney</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Zhuo Chen <<a>czcin...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">Dear Leonid,</span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">
Thank you for your prompt reply!</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">I was running chip command on the Valian Corpus and actually chip command complained in the very first file and it would not continue running after the first error. </div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">Attached is the first file from Valian Corpus. </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">
The first error happened in line 88. </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">Thank you very much!</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:inherit">
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