<div dir="ltr">Dear both,<div><br></div><div>Thank you so much for the quick response and for adjusting CLAN to make this analysis possible. I really appreciate it!</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Nicole</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Leonid Spektor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spektor@andrew.cmu.edu" target="_blank">spektor@andrew.cmu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Nicole,</div><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>We gave this idea more consideration and using our existing conventions we decided to handle clauses differently. You can still have symbol [^c] for clauses without errors. But, for clauses with errors you can have a generic code [^c *], or a more specific codes [^c error type 1], [^c error type 2] and so on [^c error ...]. This convention will make it easier for FREQ to search for all clauses using this command: freq +s"[^c*]". Or for only clauses without errors with this command:</div><div>freq +s"[^c]". Or for specific error/type clause with this command: freq +s"[^c error type 1]".</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><div>
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<br></font></span><div><span class=""><div>On Apr 14, 2015, at 14:05, Brian MacWhinney <<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Nicole,<div><br></div><div>Great question. I think the best way to do this is to use a variant of [^c] in the cases in which the clause contains an error. Let’s say that this new code is [^d]. Then you can simply count both [^c] and [^d] using FREQ, as you mention below. The only catch here is that we had to slightly modify the depfile.cut to allow this. So, if you get a new version of CLAN with this new depfile.cut, it will allow [^d] (or any other code of this form) along with [^c]. I also modified the relevant section of the CLAN manual to read as follows.</div><div><br></div><div>—Brian MacW</div><div><br></div><div>
<p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">Clause
Delimiter [^c] </span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"">If you wish to
conduct analyses such as MLU and MLT based on clauses rather than utterances as
the basic unit of analysis, you should mark the end of each clause with this
symbol. It is not necessary to mark the
scope of this symbol, since it is assumed to apply to all the material before
it up to the beginning of the utterance or up to the preceding [^c] marker. It
is possible to create additonal user-defined single-letter codes using this
format, such as [^d] which could be defined as a marker of a clause that
includes an error. Then, inside the MLU and MLT programs, you need to add the
+c switch to specify exactly which codes of this type should be recognized.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Nicole Tracy-Ventura <<a href="mailto:nicole.tracy.ventura@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicole.tracy.ventura@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>I'm interested in marking clauses in my transcripts with the [^c] marker. I also want to mark whether the clauses contain errors so that I can count the number of clauses with errors and those without. Would the best way to do this be to just add [*] after the [^c] if there is an error anywhere in the clause? </div><div><br></div><div>I tried doing this and ran a simple freq command adding +s"[^c]^[*]" but it said there were none. Adding +s"[^c]" by itself worked fine to get the total number of clauses. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you in advance for any help!</div><div><br></div><div>Nicole</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Nicole Tracy-Ventura</div><div>University of South Florida</div></div><div><br></div>
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