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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Lulu,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In that case, you can add the +l switch which marks each word overtly for its language. The command that would work for CharlotteEng is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">freq +l +s*@s:eng *.cha +u +f +t*CHI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">--Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <chibolts@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Lulu <lulusong@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <chibolts@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <chibolts@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Running FREQ for bilingual transcripts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Brian,<br>
<br>
But I'd like to get separate counts for English and Chinese words. Let me rephrase my question. In a predominantly English transcript, I'd like to get a count of ALL English words, including the ones embedded in [- zho] lines marked with @s. I can now achieve
this by running two separate commands (TCH is teacher):<br>
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freq +tTCH -s"[- zho-yue]" -s"[- zho]" *.cha<br>
freq +tTCH +s*@s* *.cha<br>
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There are two issues with the 2-command solution:<br>
1. I get two sets of counts that need to be summed manually.<br>
2. The same word with and without @s are counted as two types.<br>
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I was wondering if there's a way to combine these two commands and resolve these two issues (or at least one). Below is an excerpt of my transcript (TCH is teacher) (for IRB reasons, I cannot provide the whole transcript):<br>
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*TCH: you can take this heart .<br>
*TCH: [- zho] this@s$n <span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:"MS Mincho"">星</span> .<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>Thank you so much for your patience and kindness.<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>Lulu<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:41:46 PM UTC-4, Brian MacWhinney wrote: <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Lulu,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I think you want +s:[- zho]” in this case, not –s”[- zho]” When I run</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">freq +s"[- yue]" +t*CHI *.cha +u</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">on CharlotteEng, I get both the English words marked as @s and the Cantonese.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">--Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of Lulu <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank">lulu...@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Running FREQ for bilingual transcripts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Brian,<br>
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I tried to run the reverse command on the same transcript (mostly English with a dozen words in Chinese)<br>
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freq +tTCH -s"[- zho]" +s”*@s” *.cha (I added * after @s because my transcript also tags if the @s word is a noun or a verb)<span style="font-family:MingLiU"><br>
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</span>hoping to add the few @s English words embedded in [- zho] lines to the English word counts, but only got 0's. With +s"*@s*" removed, I get good results which don't include the @s English words. Not sure how I can fix this.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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Lulu<br>
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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 10:22:40 PM UTC-4, Lulu wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear Brian,<br>
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That just did magic! Thank you so much!<br>
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Best,<br>
Lulu<br>
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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 10:15:26 PM UTC-4, Brian MacWhinney wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Lulu,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Without seeing your transcripts, I can’t say exactly what is wrong. However, if you run this similar command on the CharlotteEng folder in the YipMatthews corpus, you get good results:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">freq +t*CHI +s"[- yue]" *.cha</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The idea is that this will include all words on the [- yue] lines including those with @s, although the latter are pretty rare. If you want to exclude those, just add –s”*@s”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">-- Brian MacWhinney</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <chib...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Lulu <lulu...@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <chib...@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 5:10 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <chib...@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Running FREQ for bilingual transcripts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Brian and team members,<br>
<br>
I ran the freq command<br>
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freq +tTCH +s"[- zho]" *.cha<br>
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for transcripts that contain bilingual utterances (e.g., *TCH: [- zho] this@s$n
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:"MS Mincho"">星</span>). The dominant language of the transcripts was English so we marked utterances that contained Chinese with [- zho]. The output types and tokens included all the English words that were marked @s. I
thought I would get the types and tokens of all the Chinese words by running the above command. Is the problem with the transcript or the command?<br>
<br>
Thank you!<br>
<br>
Lulu<o:p></o:p></p>
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