<div dir="ltr">Excellent.  May I send you a couple of sample transcripts with their analyses?<br><br>Many thanks,<br>Kimberly<br><br>On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:01:00 AM UTC-5, Brian MacWhinney wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Kimberly,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">This seems right the right list.  I guess we would need to test this out on a trial corpus or two to find out the exact precision and accuracy of this type of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="RREiAI3aBQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of Kimberly Mueller <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="RREiAI3aBQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">digg...@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="RREiAI3aBQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, September 16, 2016 at 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="RREiAI3aBQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Freq Command on %gra Tier</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Brian,<br>
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Thank you for this, it is working nicely.  I went through the manual, and decided to add a few other grammatical relations in order to capture syntactic complexity. I am hoping that you (or others) might look it over and let me know if this list appears sound? 
 The entire list includes the following:<br>
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CSUBJ:  the finite clausal subject of another clause<br>
COMP: the finite clausal complement of a verb <br>
XCOMP: the non-finite clausal complement of a verb <br>
CPRED: a full clause that serves as the predicate nominal of verbs<br>
CPOBJ: a full clause that serves as the object of a preposition<br>
COBJ: a full clause that serves as object<br>
XJCT: a non-finite clause that attaches to a verb, adjective, or adverb<br>
NJCT: the head of a complex Noun Phrase with a prepositional phrase attached as an adjunct of a noun.<br>
CMOD: a finite clause that is a nominal modifier or complement<br>
XMOD: a non-finite clause that is a nominal modifier or complement.<br>
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Taking the sum of these captured and then dividing by the total number of GRs for that sample, yielding a syntactic complexity ratio. 
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Thank you again for all of your help,<br>
Kimberly<br>
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On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-5, Brian MacWhinney wrote: </p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">To count, for example, all the cases of XCOMP in the productions by the child in the Eve corpus in Eng-NA-MOR/Brown.zip on CHILDES, I used this command:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">freq +t%gra +s"%|XCOMP" *.cha +u +t*CHI</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You could add more +s switches for CMOD, CPRED, and XPRED.  Go through the documentation of the GRs in the manual to see if you consider any others to involve embedding.  Then, I suppose you want to take account
 of the overall size of your corpus by running</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Then you can divide by the total number of tokens you get there.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">--Brian MacWhinney</span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <<a>chib...@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of Kimberly Mueller <<a>digg...@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <<a>chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <<a>chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Freq Command on %gra Tier</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<br>
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Thanks to my previous thread with Brian, I am excited to examine grammatical relations using the MEGRASP dependency analysis.  I was unsuccessful in figuring out the correct syntax to extract the frequency of  the following grammatical relations: 
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">CMOD, XMOD, CPRED, XPRED.<br>
Would someone be willing to help with that?<br>
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I am hoping to achieve a subordination index in order to assess syntactic complexity in a group of healthy adults at risk for AD. 
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Thank you!<br>
Kimberly</span></p>
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