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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks, I'll try that. I have a new version and since my FREQ output is of lemmas I don’t know what the forms were on the speaker tier but I can fix them so they are the right format for
the %mor tier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Katie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><chibolts@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Leonid Spektor <spektor@andrew.cmu.edu><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"chibolts@googlegroups.com" <chibolts@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 1 December 2016 at 18:03<br>
<b>To: </b>"chibolts@googlegroups.com" <chibolts@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: KWAL not finding words that FREQ has found...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Katie,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> The include files like the "Kwal words to find.txt" that you are using have to have the same format as the +s option does. So, if you are looking on %mor tier, then new format is:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>m;mboat<br>
m;givin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If you have an older version of CLAN, then format is:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>@r-mboat<br>
@r-givin<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If you are looking for those words on speaker tier, then you need to add @u to the end of each word in the list:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>mboat@u<br>
givin@u<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>or for more general search do:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>*mboat*<br>
*givin*<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Leonid.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 01-12-16 12:14, Alcock, Katie wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The issue is not so much how they are marked but that KWAL isn’t finding them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Is there a way to make KWAL include these forms that I haven’t found? It is doing this on all the other UK corpora that I’ve tried so far.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I’m going in alphabetical order and it’s done it with Belfast, Cruttenden, Fletcher and Howe!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">katie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Brian MacWhinney <a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu">
<macw@cmu.edu></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 1 December 2016 at 16:38<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com">"chibolts@googlegroups.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com"><chibolts@googlegroups.com></a>, Katie Alcock
<a href="mailto:k.j.alcock@lancaster.ac.uk"><k.j.alcock@lancaster.ac.uk></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: KWAL not finding words that FREQ has found...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear Katie,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The Gathburn corpus marks various strange forms with the @u special form marker. You are looking only at the %mor tier. If you look at the main tier for forms
like “mboat” you will see that they are coded as “mboat@u”. So, these are not spelling errors, but the actual forms that were produced. Without having the audio for this corpus, it is difficult to go much further.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">-- Brian MacWhinney</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">ChiBolts <a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com">
<chibolts@googlegroups.com></a> on behalf of "Alcock, Katie" <a href="mailto:k.j.alcock@lancaster.ac.uk">
<k.j.alcock@lancaster.ac.uk></a><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>ChiBolts <a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com"><chibolts@googlegroups.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 7:51 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com"><chibolts@googlegroups.com></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>KWAL not finding words that FREQ has found...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">I’ve just been running this command on multiple files (I’m going to give the examples from the Gathburn corpus where I’m working only on
the three year olds)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">freq +o +d2 +f @ +u +k +t%mor -t* +s@"r*,o%" +t*GER: +t*KAT: +t*VID: +t*JAS: +t*ALL: +t*UNK:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">It gives me a nice output that appears to be all the lemmas from all the individual child tiers plus the child tier ALL and the one UNK.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">It includes obviously some idiosyncratic words such as </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">bektim which
GER says and I can find this in one of the files by searching.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">However if I run KWAL with this list of idiosyncratic and/or words I want to check:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">kwal @ +t*GER: +t*KAT: +t*VID: +t*JAS: +t*ALL: +t*UNK: +t%mor +f +s@"Kwal words to find.txt"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">kit</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Calibri">tikdik</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">(I suspect givin and mboat are spelling errors, “dida” may also be, and I’m trying to find out if “ma” here is being used for “mother” and if “kit”
is being used for “kat”)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">then ONLY finds “kit”. This is the same whether I run it on the mor tier or the main speaker tier.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Any thoughts? If I run KWAL on each word individually it does the same – only the time I run it for Kit does it come up with something .</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Incidentally the FREQ command also tells me that one of the lemmas is “genmod”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Katie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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