<div dir="ltr">Thanks again Brian. I'll give this a try.<br><br>Peredur<br><br>On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 13:44:36 UTC+8, Brian MacWhinney  wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Peredur,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You can also do this with CHSTRING using this command:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">chstring +t%aut +s"*.*" "*-*" *.cha +1</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Make a complete copy of all of your files before trying this, because the +1 switch overwrites the originals, and there could be mistakes.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">You have to run that command several times to make sure you change all the periods.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">GREP is a part of UNIX that uses REGEX (regular expressions) and there are books about this.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">-- Brian</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">'Peredur Webb-Davies' via chibolts <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="Ct7kVMUHAwAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 18 April 2017 at 1:16 PM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: Having difficulty using KWAL command to search for strings which involve periods</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Brian. Can you please point me to where I can learn about GREP commands? I can't find a reference to them in the CHAT or CLAN manuals.<br>
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Peredur<br>
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On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 12:20:30 UTC+8, Brian MacWhinney wrote: </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Yes, the problem is your use of periods.  CLAN considers the period to be a sentence delimiter.  I replaced them with a dash and
 then used the command  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">kwal +s"see-V-INFIN*"  +t%aut test.cha</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">There were no problems.  The example with one line changed is attached.  It should easy enough to fix these using a GREP command.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">-Brian MacWhinney</span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 18 April 2017 at 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>chibolts <<a>chib...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Having difficulty using KWAL command to search for strings which involve periods</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
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I'm trying to analyse our corpus of Welsh linguistic data which has been coded using CHAT. The corpus has multiple secondary tiers, and one of them is called %aut ('autoglossed tier') , which details word-by-word morphological glossing for each item in the
 main tier.<br>
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I want to use the KWAL command in CLAN to find certain items in the %aut tier, namely (at the moment) to find pronouns. The aim is to then extract the data from the relevant main tier, so that I have collated all tokens of that pronoun from a given set of data.
 These pronouns have been glossed in %aut in the format e.g. your.ADJ.POSS.2S for a 2nd person singular pronoun. My assumption was that a command such as the following would find all items matching the search string in the %aut tier in (e.g.) the file called
 davies2ag.cha:<br>
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kwal +t%aut +syour.ADJ.POSS.2S davies1ag.cha<br>
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However, this gives no results - even though I know there are instances of this token in that transcript. If you search for just +syour , for example, it finds those results (but cannot disambiguate between 2nd singular and plural forms, among other issues).
 I assume the problem is presence of the periods/full stops in the %aut tier. <br>
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I have tried using "" around the search string, I have tried to replace the stops with * and _ and ^_^, and I have also tried using COMBO instead of KWAL, but nothing helps. It says no items found.
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I assume that there is an obvious answer that my very limited knowledge of coding is keeping from me, but if anyone can assist I would be hugely grateful!<br>
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I can supply more details as required.<br>
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Many thanks,<br>
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Peredur Webb-Davies<br>
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PS For info, here is a weblink to an example of a transcript, to show how it has been glossed etc.:
<a href="http://bangortalk.org.uk/chats/siarad/davies2.cha" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fbangortalk.org.uk%2Fchats%2Fsiarad%2Fdavies2.cha\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFvgMG1Id3HQDC4Nr2_zE3OKu3EeQ';return true;" onclick="this.href='http://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttp%3A%2F%2Fbangortalk.org.uk%2Fchats%2Fsiarad%2Fdavies2.cha\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFvgMG1Id3HQDC4Nr2_zE3OKu3EeQ';return true;">http://bangortalk.org.uk/<wbr>chats/siarad/davies2.cha</a>
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