<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Brian.<div><br><div>We just ran the frequency count for the grammatical complexity analysis on our Spanish data, and we noticed that there were only two types of complexity identified: </div><div>- CMOD and COMP</div><div><br></div><div>Other complex sentence types (e.g, XCOMP, NJCT, etc) are not present in the output at all, so does that mean that those types are not identified by MOR?</div><div><br></div><div>We ran MOR on the files using the Spanish MOR library, then the frequency for each identified syntactic type identified on the %gra tier. This procedure worked well for English, but we just noticed that there were only two types of complex sentences in the output files for Spanish. </div><div><br></div><div>You mentioned the procedure used for English might work reasonably well for Spanish, so we are curious about the mismatch in the output.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Cynthia</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Brian MacWhinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt">There is a short, medium, and a long answer to this. The short answer is “no”, but that answer is quite misleading. The medium answer is that the grammatical relations of Spanish, particularly on the interclausal
level, are nearly the same as those for English. Therefore, the routine for complexity computation presented in the CLAN manual should work nearly correctly for Spanish. The longer answer is that I could spend time working on this, but not for several weeks.
Actually, that is not a long answer. Rather, it is a short answer that points to a long timeframe.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:9.0pt">--Brian MacW<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To: </b>ChiBolts <<a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">chibolts@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Complex syntax<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there a procedure for freq of complex syntax for <b>Spanish</b>? I'm looking for the equivalent of the MEGRASP/freq procedure to count clausal types in Spanish using the %gra tier.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Brian MacWhinney <<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, this is described in section 7.10.14 of the CLAN manual.<br>
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Hi -<br>
Are there any commands that can help me count the number of sentence types - simple/complex and count different types of complex sentences? I see commands to calculate ratios of one two verb utterances and IPSYN, but I am looking for something that is more
specific to syntactic diversity and clausal diversity and that counts the number of complex versus simple sentences.<br>
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