<div dir="ltr">splendid - thanks very much, Leonid. Works beautifully!<br><br>On Monday, 6 November 2017 23:13:54 UTC, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Jeanine,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>Manual and even VOCD's own "Examples: are a bit of out of date. To get the best lemma-based analysis you should use the following command:</div><div><br></div><div>vocd +sm;*,o% @<br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 6, 2017, at 17:01, Jeanine Treffers-Daller <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="j5IyStaJCgAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">j.c.treff...@reading.<wbr>ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Hi Leonid and all readers</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">I am using vocd on the dependent tier and it works fine, but have added a third switch </span><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">+s"*|*~%%" which is not in the manual, to exclude a group of suffixes marked by ~. Perhaps this is something that can be added to the manual?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">I also think that computing a lemmatized vocd on the dependent tier leads to some distortions because the grammatical information to the left of the pipe separator is left in the text. For example: "running" is marked as "n:gerund|run" and participles are marked "part|go". Any other forms of these verbs would have different codes to the left of the pipe separator. I assume that in the case of "run" this would be "v|run" and for "go" this would be "v|go". So vocd will treat the two forms of these verbs as different types. That is not what we want in lemmatized analyses of lexical diversity. The vocd score is inflated because of this.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Would it be possible to also erase the information to the left of the pipe separator when running vocd on the mor tier? That would solve the problem. I have tried to create a command to do this, but it doesn't seem to work. I added +s"*%%|*". </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">The output I am getting without the switch I tried to add is given below. The file itself is also attached.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Another unrelated point I'd like to flag up is that the complementizer "that" is classified as a relative pronoun in the data set. Is it possible to change this perhaps?</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">thanks a lot for your help!</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">best wishes</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Jeanine</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">vocd +t%mor -t* +s"*|*-%%" +s"*|*&%%" +s"*|*~%%" +s"*|%%*" -<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="j5IyStaJCgAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">s...@exclude.cut</a> @</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">Mon Nov 06 21:42:01 2017</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">vocd (20-Oct-2017) is conducting analyses on:</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)"> ONLY dependent tiers matching: %MOR;</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">******************************<wbr>**********</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">From file <c:\DOCUMENTS\GRONINGEN\LLP\<wbr>NATIVE SPEAKERS\post\E103.mor.pst.<wbr>cex></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">det|a adj|small n|boy coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dad cop|be prep|by det|a n|large n|lake adj|throw n|stick prep|in pro|it prep|for pro:poss:det|their n|dog </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">det|the adj|little n|boy adj|call n:prop|Sam cop|be adj|happy n:gerund|play prep|with pro:poss:det|his n|dog coord|and det|the n|dog v|swim prep|across det|the n|lake adj|fetch det|the n|stick prep|for pro:obj|him </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">det|a adv:int|rather adv|well inf|to v|do n|gentleman v|walk adv|by coord|and v|think rel|that pro:sub|he mod|will v|like inf|to v|join adv|in prep|with n:prop|Sam coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dad coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dog </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">pro:sub|he v|show pro:poss:det|his n|stick prep|to det|the n|dog </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">pro:indef|everybody v|look prep|at pro:obj|him adv:int|rather in#adv|credulous </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">conj|but pro:indef|none det|the adj|less pro:sub|he v|decide inf|to v|join prep|in det|the n|fun coord|and pro:sub|he v|throw pro:poss:det|his adj|walk n|stick adv|far adv|away prep|into det|the n|middle prep|of det|the n|lake </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">n:prop|Sam coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dad coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dog adv|still mod|do adv:int|quite v|understand rel|what part|go adv|on coord|and pro:sub|they v|walk adv|away prep|as det|the coord|and det|the prep|as det|the n|dog mod|do v|want inf|to v|chase det|the n|stick </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">det|the adj|poor n|gentleman cop|be adv|left adv|there prep|by pro:refl|himself inf|to v|take prep|off pro:poss:det|his n:pt|clothes coord|and v|go part|swim prep|in det|the n|lake inf|to v|retrieve pro:poss:det|his n|stick </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">n:prop|Sam aux|be part|play prep|on det|the n|pavement adj|outside det|a n|bank pro:indef|one n|day </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">conj|as pro:sub|he part|play prep|with pro:poss:det|his n|toy det|a n|man v|come n:gerund|run adj|past conj|and prep|into det|the n|bank n:gerund|push n:prop|Sam adv|over adv|as pro:sub|he v|go </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">n:prop|Sam v|drop pro:poss:det|his n|toy coord|and cop|be qn|most n|upset </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">pro:poss:det|his n|dad v|run adv|over prep|to pro:obj|him inf|to v|see rel|what det|the n|matter </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">coord|and n:prop|Sam v|tell pro:obj|him prep|of det|the adj|rude n|man pro:dem|that adv:int|just v|push pro:obj|him adv|over conj|and adv|up coord|and v|spoil pro:poss:det|his n|game </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">pro:poss:det|his n|dad n|march prep|into det|the n|bank prep|with n:prop|Sam </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">det|the n|man rel|that adv:int|just part|push n:prop|Sam prep|over aux|be part|hold det|the n|bank prep|up adj|use n|gun coord|and pro:indef|everyone prep|in det|the n|bank adj|frighten </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">conj|but n:prop|Sam coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dad mod|do adv:int|even v|notice det|this pro:sub|they co|so n|cross prep|with pro:obj|him </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">n:prop|Sam n|dad v|slap det|the n|man </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">coord|and pro:sub|he v|drop pro:poss:det|his n|gun coord|and n:prop|Sam adv:int|very adj|happy coord|and part|clap </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">n:prop|Sam n|dad co|so n|cross prep|with pro:obj|him rel|that det|the n|bank det|the n|bank n|work cop|be adv|real v|impress rel|that pro:sub|he aux|have aux|be part|frighten prep|of det|the n|gun coord|and n|thing </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(242,242,242)">pro:indef|everyone v|applaud n:prop|Sam coord|and pro:poss:det|his n|dad prep|for pro:poss:det|their n|bravery </span></div><div><br></div></div><div><div>okens samples ttr st.dev D</div><div> 35 100 0.7886 0.062 51.470</div><div> 36 100 0.7678 0.062 45.692</div><div> 37 100 0.7589 0.064 44.198</div><div> 38 100 0.7758 0.053 51.002</div><div> 39 100 0.7590 0.059 46.604</div><div> 40 100 0.7552 0.067 46.611</div><div> 41 100 0.7524 0.063 46.883</div><div> 42 100 0.7560 0.057 49.174</div><div> 43 100 0.7428 0.068 46.120</div><div> 44 100 0.7416 0.057 46.821</div><div> 45 100 0.7382 0.058 46.841</div><div> 46 100 0.7233 0.050 43.476</div><div> 47 100 0.7426 0.056 50.331</div><div> 48 100 0.7221 0.054 45.027</div><div> 49 100 0.7314 0.053 48.803</div><div> 50 100 0.7238 0.055 47.419</div><div><br></div><div>D: average = 47.279; std dev. = 2.250</div><div>D_optimum <47.19; min least sq val = 0.001> </div><div><br></div><div>tokens samples ttr st.dev D</div><div> 35 100 0.7674 0.058 44.316</div><div> 36 100 0.7792 0.067 49.484</div><div> 37 100 0.7654 0.067 46.199</div><div> 38 100 0.7692 0.066 48.711</div><div> 39 100 0.7715 0.054 50.809</div><div> 40 100 0.7485 0.064 44.553</div><div> 41 100 0.7456 0.061 44.800</div><div> 42 100 0.7464 0.061 46.142</div><div> 43 100 0.7477 0.057 47.632</div><div> 44 100 0.7307 0.059 43.613</div><div> 45 100 0.7462 0.053 49.370</div><div> 46 100 0.7361 0.062 47.220</div><div> 47 100 0.7306 0.056 46.573</div><div> 48 100 0.7260 0.048 46.180</div><div> 49 100 0.7218 0.065 45.893</div><div> 50 100 0.7182 0.053 45.760</div><div><br></div><div>D: average = 46.703; std dev. = 1.981</div><div>D_optimum <46.63; min least sq val = 0.001> </div><div><br></div><div>tokens samples ttr st.dev D</div><div> 35 100 0.7711 0.066 45.472</div><div> 36 100 0.7614 0.066 43.732</div><div> 37 100 0.7708 0.059 47.959</div><div> 38 100 0.7479 0.063 42.155</div><div> 39 100 0.7585 0.062 46.442</div><div> 40 100 0.7650 0.064 49.806</div><div> 41 100 0.7493 0.060 45.901</div><div> 42 100 0.7364 0.057 43.210</div><div> 43 100 0.7347 0.065 43.730</div><div> 44 100 0.7350 0.057 44.849</div><div> 45 100 0.7227 0.054 42.370</div><div> 46 100 0.7261 0.065 44.268</div><div> 47 100 0.7357 0.059 48.139</div><div> 48 100 0.7352 0.055 48.992</div><div> 49 100 0.7243 0.060 46.615</div><div> 50 100 0.7162 0.062 45.185</div><div><br></div><div>D: average = 45.552; std dev. = 2.244</div><div>D_optimum <45.50; min least sq val = 0.001> </div><div><br></div><div>VOCD RESULTS SUMMARY</div><div>====================</div><div> Types,Tokens,TTR: <138,320,0.431250></div><div> D_optimum values: <47.19, 46.63, 45.50></div><div> D_optimum average: 46.44</div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>
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