<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Brie,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>It looks like FREQ counted all speaker tiers in the transcript file and not just the ones that were selected by user. Counting speaker tiers present in the file is not part of FREQ analyses, because tier names are not included in frequency counts or TTR. This function was added to FREQ just for the purpose of counting all speaker tiers in the file. I have changed FREQ to only count speaker tiers that are selected by user to make sure that output results are more consistent with other CLAN commands. I will install new CLAN on the web later today.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 20, 2018, at 14:43, Leonid Spektor <<a href="mailto:spektor@andrew.cmu.edu" class="">spektor@andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Brie,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please email to me directly a sample file along with command lines you are using for FREQ and EVAL that demonstrate this discrepancy and I will try to figure out what is wrong.<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Leonid~</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">On Dec 20, 2018, at 14:32, brielle.stark <<a href="mailto:brielle.stark@gmail.com" class="">brielle.stark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I'm specifically referencing the *PAR column in the FREQ output as being different from the "Total Utt" column in the Eval. Essentially, the *PAR column in the FREQ output is always bigger than the "Total Utt" column, hence why i was thinking the +exc tiers weren't being excluded.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for your help.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Brie<br class=""><br class="">On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 2:10:59 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Post-codes are an exception to regular codes. If you want to exclude data associated with post-codes, then you need these options:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font color="#0433ff" class="">-s"[+ exc]" -s"[+ per]" -s"[+ jargon]"</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">if you want to exclude post-code's codes themselves, i.e. "<font color="#ff2600" class="">[+ exc]</font>", "<font color="#ff2600" class="">[+ per]</font>" and "<font color="#ff2600" class="">[+ jargon]</font>", which is redundant, because they are excluded by default anyway, then you need these options:<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
<div class=""><font color="#0433ff" class="">-s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>"</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Post-codes and pre-codes are treated differently than regular codes. If you are not sure, then I would suggest to just type a command, like FREQ, by itself in commands window and you will get quick description of what those options do. For example, if you type FREQ, then under line "<font color="#ff2600" class="">+sS: search for word S in an input file.</font>" you will see description of differences between codes and post-codes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class="">Leonid.
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 20, 2018, at 13:19, brielle.stark <<a target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="6iLphfZeAQAJ" rel="nofollow" class="">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks. I tried as the FREQ command said, with;<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">freq +d2 *.cha -s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>" +t*PAR</div><div class="">eval +t*PAR +u &.cha</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">when I did this, I got different utterance counts, which makes me think that the FREQ exclusion did not work. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I appreciate your help, thanks.<br class=""><br class="">On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Yes, you need to specify post-codes to make FREQ exclude or include utterances with that post-code.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 18, 2018, at 09:47, brielle.stark <<a rel="nofollow" class="">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Do I need to specify to exclude [+ exc] with 'freq'?<br class=""><br class="">On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:46:58 AM UTC-5, brielle.stark wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Perfect, thanks!<br class=""><br class="">On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:18:50 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Brie,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre" class=""> </span>EVAL, KIDEVAL and few other commands automatically excludes utterances marked with "[+ exc]" post-code. You do not need to specify it on the command line. The reason you got an error message is because we do not want post-codes used to include or exclude any other utterances by mistake.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 17, 2018, at 14:21, brielle.stark <<a rel="nofollow" class="">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class="">Hi there. I'm trying to exclude utterances on the PAR line tagged with + exc. According to the manual, and to the eval command, I've been doing:</font><div class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class=""><i class="">eval +t*PAR -s"[+ exc]" +u *.cha</i></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class="">Am I doing something incorrect? Feedback from CLAN:</font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class=""><i class="">Please specify only precodes "[- ...]" with +/-s option.</i></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande"" class=""><font face="arial, sans-serif" class="">Thank you very much!</font></div><div 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