<div dir="ltr">I'm specifically referencing the *PAR column in the FREQ output as being different from the "Total Utt" column in the Eval. Essentially, the *PAR column in the FREQ output is always bigger than the "Total Utt" column, hence why i was thinking the +exc tiers weren't being excluded.<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your help.</div><div><br></div><div>Brie<br><br>On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 2:10:59 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Post-codes are an exception to regular codes. If you want to exclude data associated with post-codes, then you need these options:<div><br></div><div><font color="#0433ff">-s"[+ exc]" -s"[+ per]" -s"[+ jargon]"</font></div><div><br></div><div>if you want to exclude post-code's codes themselves, i.e. "<font color="#ff2600">[+ exc]</font>", "<font color="#ff2600">[+ per]</font>" and "<font color="#ff2600">[+ jargon]</font>", which is redundant, because they are excluded by default anyway, then you need these options:<br><div><br></div><div>
<div><font color="#0433ff">-s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>"</font></div><div><br></div><div>Post-codes and pre-codes are treated differently than regular codes. If you are not sure, then I would suggest to just type a command, like FREQ, by itself in commands window and you will get quick description of what those options do. For example, if you type FREQ, then under line "<font color="#ff2600">+sS: search for word S in an input file.</font>" you will see description of differences between codes and post-codes.</div><div><br></div><br>Leonid.
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 20, 2018, at 13:19, brielle.stark <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="6iLphfZeAQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks. I tried as the FREQ command said, with;<div><br></div><div>freq +d2 *.cha -s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>" +t*PAR</div><div>eval +t*PAR +u &.cha</div><div><br></div><div>when I did this, I got different utterance counts, which makes me think that the FREQ exclusion did not work. </div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate your help, thanks.<br><br>On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Yes, you need to specify post-codes to make FREQ exclude or include utterances with that post-code.<br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 18, 2018, at 09:47, brielle.stark <<a rel="nofollow">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Do I need to specify to exclude [+ exc] with 'freq'?<br><br>On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:46:58 AM UTC-5, brielle.stark wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Perfect, thanks!<br><br>On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:18:50 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Brie,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre"> </span>EVAL, KIDEVAL and few other commands automatically excludes utterances marked with "[+ exc]" post-code. You do not need to specify it on the command line. The reason you got an error message is because we do not want post-codes used to include or exclude any other utterances by mistake.<br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 17, 2018, at 14:21, brielle.stark <<a rel="nofollow">briell...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><font face="arial, sans-serif">Hi there. I'm trying to exclude utterances on the PAR line tagged with + exc. According to the manual, and to the eval command, I've been doing:</font><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif"><i>eval +t*PAR -s"[+ exc]" +u *.cha</i></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif">Am I doing something incorrect? Feedback from CLAN:</font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif"><i>Please specify only precodes "[- ...]" with +/-s option.</i></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, sans-serif">Thank you very much!</font></div><div style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Lucida Grande""><font face="arial, 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