<div>Hi Nan (if I may), <br></div><div><br></div><div>the speakers are L2 learners so the extraneous words are mistakes that need to be identified and correct. Probably on a case by case bases, both solutions can be implemented. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much. <br></div><div>Matteo<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mercoledì 15 settembre 2021 alle 14:09:27 UTC-6 nratner ha scritto:<br/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr">I agree with Brian's suggestions. The only other thing I would add is where these extraneous words arise from - are they reformulations? Who are these speakers? In this case, you might want to use revision markers. Or, if circumlocutions, the disfluency prefix that Brian just supplied.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Nan Bernstein Ratner, F-, H-ASHA, F-AAAS, ABCLD</div><div>Professor</div><div>Hearing and Speech Sciences</div><div>University of Maryland</div><div>0100 Lefrak Hall</div><div>College Park, MD 20742</div><div><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">nra...@umd.edu</a>, <a href="tel:(301)%20405-4217" value="+13014054217" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">301-405-4217</a> <a href="https://umd.zoom.us/j/7924324343" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=https://umd.zoom.us/j/7924324343&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNGcYNq29V106TSTB87IEB99XWl-eA">My Zoom</a></div><div><br></div><div>Co-director: FluencyBank (<font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.fluency.talkbank.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://www.fluency.talkbank.org&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNEFStnfaOIjz-NVD7tRw5-b0UEkvw">www.fluency.talkbank.org</a></font>); <a href="http://languagefluency.umd.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://languagefluency.umd.edu/&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNGRCEsra74tEex-SDCXpansjEjD4Q">http://languagefluency.umd.edu/</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Immediate Past President, International Fluency Association (IFA; <a href="http://theifa.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://theifa.org&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNEhvvClOesNqQpcv59RKoMrgvqrXw">http://theifa.org</a>)</div><div>Director, University of Maryland Autism Research Consortium (UMARC), <a href="http://www.autism.umd.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://www.autism.umd.edu&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNHsqPpcQN496s7HiOHmHw56gMraQA">www.autism.umd.edu</a></div><div>Faculty, Language Science (<a href="http://languagescience.umd.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://languagescience.umd.edu&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNG3QVZ8Yy890fuqnm4CecIbZbuILA">languagescience.umd.edu</a>; Neuroscience & Cognitive Neuroscience (NACS, <a href="http://nacs.umd.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://nacs.umd.edu&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNEgH8llo0eKuQVozisBEufYXCACjg">nacs.umd.edu</a>), Developmental Science Field Committee</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNF-vOU75K1eeumlFBBWLPb4TnHpcQ">https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/myncbi/1-UVaaDdREZ/bibliography/40436718/public/?sort=date&direction=ascending" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=it&q=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/myncbi/1-UVaaDdREZ/bibliography/40436718/public/?sort%3Ddate%26direction%3Dascending&source=gmail&ust=1631978577698000&usg=AFQjCNGAEdoNUZfUf0zoTGs-bADhzP0TJg">My PubMed Bibliography</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:25 PM Brian Macwhinney <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">ma...@andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Matteo,<br>
It is surprising that we hadn’t already developed a code specifically for this. However, it is easy to add a special form marker for this purpose. User-defined special form markers begin with the letter “z”. It could be @z:ex for extraneous or whatever you wish. Page 47 of the CHAT manual describes this and says, "User-defined special forms can be marked with @z, followed by up to five letters of a user-defined code, such as in word@z:rftd. MOR will ignore or "skip" the user code and process the word.”<br>
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*CHI: I went to@z:ex swimming to the@z:ex Spain.<br>
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If however, you want MOR to really ignore the word, you could have<br>
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*CHI: I went &to_ex swimming to &the_ex Spain.<br>
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Because MOR ignores non-words beginning with &.<br>
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— Brian MacWhinney<br>
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> On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Matteo Fiorini <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">matteo....@utah.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear all, <br>
> <br>
> how could I mark a previous word as unnecessary?<br>
> The following is an example:<br>
> <br>
> Target sentence: I went swimming to Spain<br>
> Utterance: I went to swimming to the Spain<br>
> <br>
> I'd add a code like [:: _] after the relevant word, signalling it in the comment line, but I was wondering if there was already an option for that. <br>
> <br>
> Thank you,<br>
> Matteo<br>
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