<div dir="ltr">If you want to examine context AFTER "merging", you could use the GEM function (see CHAT manual), and the full transcripts will maintain sections marked by context for later comparisons (see CLAN manual for options to select GEMS for analysis).<div><br></div><div>best regards,</div><div>N</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Nan Bernstein Ratner, F-, H-ASHA, F-AAAS, ABCLD</div><div>Professor</div><div>Hearing and Speech Sciences</div><div>University of Maryland</div><div>0100 Lefrak Hall</div><div>College Park, MD 20742</div><div><a href="mailto:nratner@umd.edu" target="_blank">nratner@umd.edu</a>, 301-405-4217 <a href="https://umd.zoom.us/j/7924324343" target="_blank">My Zoom</a></div><div><br></div><div>Co-director: FluencyBank (<font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.fluency.talkbank.org" target="_blank">www.fluency.talkbank.org</a></font>); <a href="http://languagefluency.umd.edu/" target="_blank">http://languagefluency.umd.edu/</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Immediate Past President, International Fluency Association (IFA; <a href="http://theifa.org" target="_blank">http://theifa.org</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>Faculty, Language Science (<a href="http://languagescience.umd.edu" target="_blank">languagescience.umd.edu</a>; Neuroscience & Cognitive Neuroscience (NACS, <a href="http://nacs.umd.edu" target="_blank">nacs.umd.edu</a>), Developmental Science Field Committee</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan" target="_blank">https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>My PubMed bibliography: <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/1RORcBHUvuRQ82/bibliography/public/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/1RORcBHUvuRQ82/bibliography/public/</span></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:05 AM Fagniart Sophie <<a href="mailto:sophie.fagniart@gmail.com">sophie.fagniart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear mr McWhinney,<div>Dear mrs Bernstein,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot for your answers. </div><div><br></div><div>Indeed, my question was about how to merge the transcripts. The two samples have been collected at the same time for each of the children : only the task was different. I'm aware of the important influence of the activity on language measures, that's why I've worked on them separately at first. As some samples are too short to collect some reliable measures, I'm trying to know how to combine them easily. </div><div><br></div><div>I think I'll need to combine the audios first for some samples to have adjusted time bullets, as somes tasks have been recorded separately.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for your help and your precise answers.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Sophie</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 6 sept. 2022 à 22:39, Nan Bernstein Ratner <<a href="mailto:nratner@umd.edu" target="_blank">nratner@umd.edu</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all, I saw the question as HOW to combine transcripts, although Brian makes a very good point (and we are increasingly finding influences of activity on many language measures). I would say that the simplest thing to do to combine things for KidEval is just to cut and paste the content of one transcript into the other. This only works if you do not need the two audios for measures that are dependent on the linked audio. If you need the audio to reference values, you will also need to combine the audios.<div><br></div><div>N</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Nan Bernstein Ratner, F-, H-ASHA, F-AAAS, ABCLD</div><div>Professor</div><div>Hearing and Speech Sciences</div><div>University of Maryland</div><div>0100 Lefrak Hall</div><div>College Park, MD 20742</div><div><a href="mailto:nratner@umd.edu" target="_blank">nratner@umd.edu</a>, 301-405-4217 <a href="https://umd.zoom.us/j/7924324343" target="_blank">My Zoom</a></div><div><br></div><div>Co-director: FluencyBank (<font color="#0000ff"><a href="http://www.fluency.talkbank.org" target="_blank">www.fluency.talkbank.org</a></font>); <a href="http://languagefluency.umd.edu/" target="_blank">http://languagefluency.umd.edu/</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Immediate Past President, International Fluency Association (IFA; <a href="http://theifa.org" target="_blank">http://theifa.org</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>Faculty, Language Science (<a href="http://languagescience.umd.edu" target="_blank">languagescience.umd.edu</a>; Neuroscience & Cognitive Neuroscience (NACS, <a href="http://nacs.umd.edu" target="_blank">nacs.umd.edu</a>), Developmental Science Field Committee</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan" target="_blank">https://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein-ratner/nan</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>My PubMed bibliography: <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/1RORcBHUvuRQ82/bibliography/public/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/1RORcBHUvuRQ82/bibliography/public/</span></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:24 PM Brian Macwhinney <<a href="mailto:macw@cmu.edu" target="_blank">macw@cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Sophie,<br>
I assume that you are talking about two samples from the same child taken at about the same time. For example, you could take a sample in the morning and then give the child a break and take another sample in the afternoon. That would be more or less okay. You could essentially combine these two sessions into a single transcript. That would increase reliability of some of the measures, but you would need to recognize the fact that the comparison samples in the database were not given the benefit of that type of treatment. <br>
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—Brian MacWhinney<br>
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> On Sep 6, 2022, at 3:44 PM, <a href="mailto:sophie.fagniart@gmail.com" target="_blank">sophie.fagniart@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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> Hello to everyone,<br>
> <br>
> I'm working with CLAN for my research in language development. I'm using the Kideval procedure on my transcripts of children. <br>
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> I was wondering if it could be possible to merge two transcripts. Indeed, I have two transcripts by children, with different language samples, and it would be helpful merging them to have a larger language sample. It could especially help for the reliability of some Kideval measures.<br>
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> Thanks a lot for your help.<br>
> Sophie Fagniart <br>
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