<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Lisa,<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>You can also look at the bottom red line in FLUCALC spreadsheet output. It will say something like:</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#ff2600">This spreadsheet was run in syllable mode</font><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 30, 2024, at 17:57, 'Lisa LaSalle' via chibolts <chibolts@googlegroups.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Aha! Thanks, Davida, that does help. <div><br></div><div>Lisa<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin: 0px; padding-right: 8px; font-size: 10pt; padding-left: 8px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Tahoma;"><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px;color:rgb(128,128,128)"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(140,29,64);font-size:8pt;font-weight:bold;background:rgb(255,198,39)"></span><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(140,29,64)"><img src="https://csumb.github.io/email-media/CSUMB_primary_logo_color.png" style="margin:0px;width:175px"></span><table style="margin:0px"><tbody style="margin:0px"></tbody></table></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px;color:rgb(128,128,128)"><table style="margin:20px 0px 0px;border-left:medium solid rgb(17,46,85);padding-left:10px"><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81);font-weight:bold;font-size:12pt">Lisa LaSalle, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (she/her)</span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 9pt; font-weight: 600;">Master of Science, Speech-Language Pathology</span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 9pt;">Professor</span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px;display:flex"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(17,46,81);font-size:9pt"><strong style="margin:0px">Phone: </strong><a href="tel:831-772-7063" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;" target="_blank">831-772-7063</a> </span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81);font-size:9pt"><strong style="margin:0px">Email: </strong><a href="mailto:llasalle@csumb.edu" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;" target="_blank">llasalle@csumb.edu</a> <br><a style="margin:0px"></a></span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px;"><strong style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81)"><font size="2"> <a href="https://csumb.zoom.us/my/lisa.lasalle" style="margin: 0px;" target="_blank">My Zoom</a> </font></strong></span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr height="10" style="margin:0px"><td align="left" style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td align="left" style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. 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Otherwise, it will use syllables.</div><div><br></div><div>FLUCALC creates a spreedsheet with a series of fluency measures.<br>Usage: flucalc [fS re sS s@F sgS smS tS xN zN 2 ] filename(s)<br>+a : get pauses time value from %wor tier (default: disregard %wor tier)<br><b>+b : select word mode analyses (default: syllables mode)</b><br></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Hope that helps,</div><div>Davida</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 4:18 PM 'Lisa LaSalle' via chibolts <<a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">chibolts@googlegroups.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have a similar question to Tracy. On p. 139 of the manual, it states "The user can select to have FLUCALC use either words or syllables as the denominator for the computation of percentages (indicated below by %)." How do we know what the default denominator is when we only Run "flucalc <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="m_-7709534849118730755m_-2050822911448402477plusReplyChip-0">+t*CHI" ? </a><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Lisa<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin: 0px; padding-right: 8px; font-size: 10pt; padding-left: 8px; line-height: 16px; font-family: Tahoma;"><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px;color:rgb(128,128,128)"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(140,29,64);font-size:8pt;font-weight:bold;background:rgb(255,198,39)"></span><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(140,29,64)"><img src="https://csumb.github.io/email-media/CSUMB_primary_logo_color.png" style="margin: 0px; width: 175px;"></span><table style="margin:0px"><tbody style="margin:0px"></tbody></table></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px;color:rgb(128,128,128)"><table style="margin:20px 0px 0px;border-left:medium solid rgb(17,46,85);padding-left:10px"><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81);font-weight:bold;font-size:12pt">Lisa LaSalle, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (she/her)</span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 9pt; font-weight: 600;">Master of Science, Speech-Language Pathology</span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 9pt;">Professor</span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px;display:flex"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(17,46,81);font-size:9pt"><strong style="margin:0px">Phone: </strong><a href="tel:831-772-7063" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;" target="_blank">831-772-7063</a> </span></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81);font-size:9pt"><strong style="margin:0px">Email: </strong><a href="mailto:llasalle@csumb.edu" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;" target="_blank">llasalle@csumb.edu</a> <br><a style="margin:0px"></a></span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr style="margin:0px"><td style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px;"><strong style="margin:0px;color:rgb(17,46,81)"><font size="2"> <a href="https://csumb.zoom.us/my/lisa.lasalle" style="margin: 0px;" target="_blank">My Zoom</a> </font></strong></span></td></tr></tbody><tbody style="margin:0px"><tr height="10" style="margin:0px"><td align="left" style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px"><td align="left" style="line-height:14px;padding:0px"><span style="margin: 0px; font-size: 8pt;">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. 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This is noted in the manual, where it says on page 139, "If the sample has been processed for ASR (automatic speech recognition) using the batchalign system at <a href="https://github.com/talkbank" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/talkbank</a> there will be a new %wor line that can be used when the +a switch is selected to derive more accurate times for word and pause duration. These additional times are then summarized in 9 columns are the end of the output.”<br>
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If you were using an older version of the manual, that might be missing.<br>
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Best,<br>
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— Brian MacWhinney<br>
Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, <br>
Language Technologies and Modern Languages, CMU <br>
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> On Oct 25, 2024, at 3:16 PM, Tracy Preza <<a href="mailto:tpreza2@illinois.edu" target="_blank">tpreza2@illinois.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hello, <br>
> We are exploring the fluency measures computed automatically through FLUCALC, and have questions about how exactly FLUCALC computes words per minute and syllable per minute. We haven’t been able to find this in the manual or published articles. The denominator doesn’t seem to be based on the overall elapsed time, but we can’t verify if it is based on the elapsed time from bullet to bullet for each speaker. Could you point us to what information FLUCALC is pulling for these measures?<br>
> <br>
> Thank you! <br>
> Tracy<br>
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