<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Leandro,<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I have finally found the problem and fixed it. I have tested it on Mac Unix. I assume it will also work on Linux. Let me know if you have any problems with Unix CLAN. New UnixCLAN is on the web.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2025, at 16:31, Leandro Garber <leandrogarber@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">Hi Leonid, thank you very much for your reply.</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">I think you are on the right track, I recall the differences could be caused by something like that. I don't know the technical details about lexicon implementations but I can check it out as well and see if I discover something.<br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">I can send you examples next Tuesday that I'll be on my office computer.</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">Right now I just remember there were problems with some diminutives (i.e perro (dog) -> perrito (little dog)) (not all)</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">I'm glad you have the time to work on this.</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">Best,</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, sans-serif;" class="gmail_default">L.<br></div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><br>--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><a href="http://leandrogarber.info/" target="_blank">leandrogarber.info</a></span><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El jue, 23 ene 2025 a la(s) 6:22 p.m., Leonid Spektor (<a href="mailto:spektor@andrew.cmu.edu">spektor@andrew.cmu.edu</a>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Leandro,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I am still trying to figure out why Mac/Windows and Unix outputs are different. I noticed that on Mac/Windows words with accents like "móntale" and striped of accents and are converted to stem "monta". The word "móntale" is not in the lexicon, so striping accents occurs before the word is looked up in the lexicon list. On Unix the accents are not striped, so MOR can't find "móntale" word anywhere in the Spanish lexicon. I did not create Spanish grammar, so it takes a long time for me to figure out where the conversion occurs.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this the difference in Windows and Linux you are noticing? Or can you give me an example of the difference in outputs that you are referring to in your email?</div><div><br></div><div>I just wanted to let you know that I am still working on this.<br id="m_-2274515296477398274lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 22, 2025, at 12:21, Leandro Garber <<a href="mailto:leandrogarber@gmail.com" target="_blank">leandrogarber@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div>Hi everyone, I hope you are starting 2025 great.</div><div><br></div><div>Just wanted to report that I've just downloaded the latest Linux version and I'm getting different outputs on Linux compared to Windows (not Mac this time as the title suggests). I've been able to run Windows version with Wine emulator in order to do the comparison.</div><div><br></div><div>On linux I'm running:</div><div><br></div><div>/path/to/mor -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha<br>/path/to/post +d/path/to/lib/spa/post.db my_cha_file.cha<br>/path/to/postmortem -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha<br>/path/to/megrasp -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing something?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance</div><div>L.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">El Tuesday, December 28, 2021 a la(s) 4:29:28 PM UTC-3, Leandro Garber escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">That was fast. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I've just downloaded it, compiled it, and yes, it works like a charm. Files are identical now.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Thanks for your help and happy new year.<br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><br>--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><a href="http://leandrogarber.info/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">leandrogarber.info</a></span><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 15:47, Leonid Spektor (<<a rel="nofollow">spe...@andrew.cmu.edu</a>>) escribió:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>The Unix bug has been fixed. New UNIX code is on the web.<br><div>
<br><br>Leonid.
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 28, 2021, at 13:38, Leandro Garber <<a rel="nofollow">leandr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Thanks Brian and Leonid for your time, I hope I didn't spoil your holidays !</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Leandro.<br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><br>--<br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><a href="http://leandrogarber.info/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">leandrogarber.info</a></span><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 15:21, Leonid Spektor (<<a rel="nofollow">spe...@andrew.cmu.edu</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Apparently there is a bug in Unix MOR code that fails to read pre-post rules file. I am working on this right now and I will let everyone know when it is fixed.<br>
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> On Dec 28, 2021, at 13:17, Brian Macwhinney <<a rel="nofollow">ma...@andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I guess Leonid didn’t include PREPOST in the Unix distribution. We are all on vacation this week and next. Any chance you could rely on Mac OS instead?<br>
> <br>
> — Brian<br>
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>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Leandro Garber <<a rel="nofollow">leandr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Dear Brian,<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks for your quick response. I can't find a "prepost" binary in my bin folder, is it named something different ?<br>
>> <br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> Leandro.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
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>> El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 13:57, Brian Macwhinney (<<a rel="nofollow">ma...@andrew.cmu.edu</a>>) escribió:<br>
>> Dear Leandro,<br>
>> It appears that on Linux, you are not running the PREPOST program, which is a step in the MOR-PREPOST-POST-POSTMORTEM-MEGRASP chain on Mac. For your two examples, I think that the Mac version is better. So, I would recommend either relying on that or else running PREPOST on Linux also.<br>
>> <br>
>> — Brian MacWhinney<br>
>> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, <br>
>> Language Technologies and Modern Languages, CMU<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Leandro Garber <<a rel="nofollow">leandr...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hi everyone,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> We are processing some CHA files with MOR and we are finding differences between the same files processed on Linux and on MacOS.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Both using the latest version of MOR for english downloaded from <a href="https://talkbank.org/morgrams/" rel="noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://talkbank.org/morgrams/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> Some examples:<br>
>>> -------------------<br>
>>> *FA1: well it ended up there in your pile<br>
>>> <br>
>>> MacOS:<br>
>>> %mor: co|well pro:per|it v|end-PAST prep|up n|there prep|in det:poss|your<br>
>>> n|pile .<br>
>>> Linux:<br>
>>> %mor: co|well pro:per|it v|end-PAST adv|up adv|there prep|in<br>
>>> det:poss|your n|pile .<br>
>>> ------------------------------<br>
>>> *MA1: Morgan doesn't bite .<br>
>>> <br>
>>> MacOS:<br>
>>> %mor: n:prop|Morgan mod|do&3S~neg|not v|bite .<br>
>>> Linux:<br>
>>> %mor: n:prop|Morgan mod|do&3S~neg|not n|bite .<br>
>>> -------------------------------<br>
>>> <br>
>>> We are using CLAN from the UI in macOS and on Linux we are using:<br>
>>> mor +L/path/to/lib/eng [chaFilePath]<br>
>>> post +d/path/to/lib/eng/post.db [chaFilePath]<br>
>>> postmortem +L/path/to/lib/eng $1<br>
>>> megrasp +L/path/to/lib/eng $1<br>
>>> <br>
>>> We found that on Linux post, postmortem and megrasp don't automatically run so we manually do it.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Am I missing something ? Shouldn't the output be the same ?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks in advance,<br>
>>> Leandro.<br>
>>> <br>
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