<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div>The poor person’s workaround - you could tweak the system by just making each character into a word - i.e. by putting a space between every character on whatever tier you’re using to count MLU. Surely a python script could easily do this for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Or a more complicated variant would be to write a python script to calculate what you want from the existing file.</div><div><br></div><div>In both cases, you should of course take Leonid’s observation below into account - that you’d need to first decide which words/utterances should be included.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Shanley Allen.</div><div><br></div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 25. Jul 2025, at 15:15, 'Janet Bang' via chibolts <chibolts@googlegroups.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Got it, thank you!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 12:12 PM Leonid Spektor <<a href="mailto:spektor@andrew.cmu.edu">spektor@andrew.cmu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Janet,<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I am sorry to say it, but MLU can only count words or morphemes.</div><div><br></div><div>If you plan to use another program, then please keep in mind that MLU uses a lot of rules to decide if utterance or word(s) should be counted. You can read those rule in CLAN manual at <a href="https://talkbank.org/0info/manuals/CLAN.pdf" target="_blank">https://talkbank.org/0info/manuals/CLAN.pdf</a>. Please look for chapter "7.19" MLU in the manual.<br id="m_-942281248623768501lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 25, 2025, at 14:53, 'Janet Bang' via chibolts <<a href="mailto:chibolts@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">chibolts@googlegroups.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Hello!<div><br>Is there a way to use the MLU program to extract MLU in characters? We are exploring measures to facilitate cross-linguistic comparisons between English and Spanish and someone had recommended using characters (over MLU words) given the orthographic transparency of Spanish. </div><div><br></div><div>We saw some other programs on github, but I was hoping there was something within CLAN because we had already used MOR within CLAN.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Janet</div><div><br></div>
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