T at waduxq anecdote about C^idukw
Liland Brajant ROS'
lilandbr at SCN.ORG
Sat Mar 6 05:35:06 UTC 1999
Mike Cleven (<ironmtn at bigfoot.com> <http://members.home.net/ironmtn/>):
>At 03:23 PM 3/5/99 -0800, David Robertson wrote:
>>I assume that these C^idukw people traveled by canoe to T at waduxq land. I
>>further assume that this would make it likely the Chinooks had contact
>>with the Juan de Fuca peoples (Nuu-chah-nulth, for example). So this
>>looks like an argument for possible pre-European origin of Chinook /
>>However, it's been pointed out to me that the Shoalwater
>>or Willapa Bay Chinooks lived relatively close *by land* to the Twana.
>>Overland contact cannot be ruled out, though I don't yet know for
>>certain of any such between these two groups. Non-maritime travel from
>>the Columbia River, or travel by canoe from there to the territory of the
>>more northerly Chinooks (followed by overland travel), would eliminate my
>>hypothesized contact with Nootkans.
>I'm gathering from your post that the Twana are reckoned to have been in
>the same language family as Chinook(an)? I'm not up-to-date on this kind
>of stuff, but somewhere I read that anything about their language was
>known. Is this different today?
I'm quite sure the Twana spoke a Salish tongue quite similar to
Lushootseed (from the geography one would anticipate affinities to
Klallam and/or Quinault, too, but my guess is, closest to Lushootseed).
And thus not in the usual sense "in the same language family as
Chinook(an)" -- though of course macro-family-oriented folks have tied
them together. I'm crossposting this to the Salishan list so that maybe
somebody who really knows can comment.
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