CHINOOK Digest - 4 Feb 2005 to 5 Feb 2005 (#2005-12)
yakimabelle at YAHOO.COM
Tue Feb 8 05:41:26 UTC 2005
I wonder if the word donkey acquired its current form
as an onomatopeia? (Don't know how to spell it - a
word that emulates a sound.)
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> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:34:30 -0800
> From: Leanne Riding <riding at TIMETEMPLE.COM>
> Subject: Chinook Jargon word for Donkey?
> A question at the Chinook-Wawa group on Yahoo ended
> up puzzling me too =
> -- the=20
> question was:
> "What is the Chinook Jargon word for Donkey?"
> Considering there are words for Mule (ie. "le mel"
> or "moola"), why not =
> Maybe "burro" or "l'ane"? For the question, "What
> is the Chinook the =
> Jargon word for Donkey?" -- Should the correct
> answer for the question =
> Did the word Donkey come from l'ane cay? "Mule colt
> / hoofed animal =
> is a mule/looks like a mule?"
> :) I know, a stretch. The Cayuse thread has been
> putting thoughts in my =
> However, I couldn't come up with anything better
> because the word =
> seems itself a little mysterious. Here is what
> Wikipedia had to say =
> the etymology of the word Donkey:
> "The word "donkey" is one of the most etymologically
> obscure in the =
> language. Until quite recent times, the standard
> word was "ass", which =
> clear cognates in most other Indo-European
> languages; no credible =
> for "donkey" has yet been identified, though it is
> possible that it is a =
> of "dun" (dull greyish-brown), a typical donkey
> colour; originally, =
> was pronounced to rhyme with "monkey". In the late
> 18th century, the =
> "donkey" started to replace "ass", almost certainly
> to avoid confusion =
> the word "arse", which, due to sound changes that
> had affected the =
> had come to be pronounced the same way (/=C3=A6s/
> > /=C9=91:s/ and =
> /=C9=91:rs/ > /=C9=91:s/). The=20
> /=C9=91:s/ pronunciation of "ass" was eventually
> restored to /=C3=A6s/ =
> in order to reserve=20
> the distinction, but not without the curious
> consequence of American =
> losing the word "arse" entirely and handing over its
> meaning to "ass".
> (Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey,
> Saturday, February 5, =
> I also found "1785, slang, perhaps from dun "dull
> grey-brown," the form =
> infl. by monkey. Or possibly from a familiar form of
> Duncan (cf. =
> dobbin). The=20
> older Eng. word was ass."
> (Online Etymology Dictionary, =
> searchmode=3Dnone, Saturday, February 5, 2005
> I wonder the 1785 reference referred to George
> Washington's donkeys =
> he received in 1785? He apparently also had a
> Chincoteague pony which he =
> "Chinky." Need to know more...
> =3D( : ] )-[--<
> - Leanne
> - homepage: timetemple.com
> End of CHINOOK Digest - 4 Feb 2005 to 5 Feb 2005
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