Blue Heron

Tony Johnson Tony.Johnson at GRANDRONDE.ORG
Fri Apr 27 17:21:37 UTC 2007


Blue Heron's specifically.  

 

By the way: I never knew the word Blue Heron as a child because my
family always called them "Bay Center Turkeys."  Bay Center is the
Chinook Indian community where many of us come from in recent years.
This includes my family, my wife's family, as well as many well know
Chinooks like Charles Cultee and Emma Luscier.  I can't really say why
they were referred to that way.

 

Oh, and as for Scott inquiry about Robin's name-we usually say "pil
tutush" or "pil tutush kala-kala."  I don't know that this is as taught
by our elders, but is a good fit. Some of us also use the word "skasayt"
which is one of the original words from the area.

 

hayu masi (many thanks),

 

 

 

Tony A. Johnson

Cultural Education Coordinator

Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde

9615 Grand Ronde Road

Grand Ronde, OR 97347

503-879-2084

 

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From: The Chinook List [mailto:CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On
Behalf Of Francisc Czobor
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:51 PM
To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Blue Heron

 

Hayu masi, Tony, pus k'ilapay wawa !

 

In this case, the bird whose wing bones were used to make the long
needles for mats is any of them (herons, cranes etc.) or only a certain
species?

 

Francisc

Tony Johnson <Tony.Johnson at GRANDRONDE.ORG> wrote:

	It is a descriptor for all birds of that type (Herons, Cranes,
etc.).

	 

	aLqi ntsayka wawa.

	 

	 

	hayu masi (many thanks),

	 

	 

	 

	Tony A. Johnson

	Cultural Education Coordinator

	Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde

	9615 Grand Ronde Road

	Grand Ronde, OR 97347

	503-879-2084

	 

	
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	From: The Chinook List
[mailto:CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Francisc Czobor
	Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:59 AM
	To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
	Subject: Re: Blue Heron

	 

	LaXayEm Tony,

	 

	I have just a little question: "yuLqat thiya7wit" refers to the
blue heron in particular or means "heron" in general? (are there several
species of herons in the area?)

	 

	Hayu masi,

	Francisc
	
	Tony Johnson <Tony.Johnson at GRANDRONDE.ORG> wrote:

		ixt tEnEs ikta: nayka tilixam Laska munk yuLqat k'ipwat
(pus munk Liskwis) khapa yuLqat thiya7wit yaka lima bon. 

		 

		hayu masi (many thanks),

		 

		 

		 

		Tony A. Johnson

		Cultural Education Coordinator

		Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde

		9615 Grand Ronde Road

		Grand Ronde, OR 97347

		503-879-2084

		 

		
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		From: The Chinook List
[mailto:CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Leanne Riding
		Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:36 PM
		To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
		Subject: Re: Blue Heron

		 

		I've never seen a specific word for this bird, either.
Not sure why there is not one, but perhaps this bird lacked usefulness
in a CJ context?
		
		Leanne
		
		
		Francisc Czobor wrote: 

		The only CJ expression referring (also) to the heron I
found in "The Chinook Book" of W.S. Phillips ("El Comancho"), under the
heading KULLAKULLA:

		"Siah lepee kullakulla mitlite copo chuck illahee," "A
long legged bird that-lives-in the water-land (swamps)." (The crane,
snipe or heron.)

		But I don't know about any specific denomination for the
blue heron.

		 

		Francisc
		
		"J. Barnes" <saghalie.illahee at YAHOO.COM>
<mailto:saghalie.illahee at YAHOO.COM>  wrote:

			The Jargon seems to have developed words for
specific animals.  Does anyone know if there's a word for a Blue Heron
(also known as the Great Blue Heron)? 

			
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