Indian CJ pronunciation sources and a few words

[Scott Tyler]

Hi James,
I do believe each gave its own accent or pronunciation to WaWa depending on 
the
consonants and structure of their Native language.

 tseek tseek for wagon was  c'iik c'iik in Makah which could be the noise 
the wagon make (squeek squeek or
from the Nuchanulth   ciik ciik which may mean 'crooked or out of wack or 
aslant.

Makah did not have m's or went through a m to b shift in pronunciation so
 le motu became  libiitu   for sheep.

muus muus became buus buus.

An interesting word is   halo  for none.  In Makah this is hiyuu,  and the 
wawa word is prononuced   hiluu  in a bone game song,
  hiluu mayka naanich   you cant see (the gambling bones)

There are some comparitive word lists with a proper phonetic transcription. 
Dave may have one which compares some words
in Nuchanulth, Makah and Wawa.
 Scott



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Subject: Indian CJ pronunciation sources and a few words


>I have a couple of questions I'd like to ask the community. The first
> is, does anyone have a reference for a "Chinuk Wawa" dictionary, i.e.
> a dictionary of words and pronunciations used by Grande Ronde
> speakers? How about anything similar for other Indian forms of CJ? All
> I can find are English or French wordlists and dictionaries and they
> give me little clue as to what the Indian pronunciations of various
> words might have been. I'm especially interested in sources that give
> good reflections of more northern speech such as interior and northern
> BC speakers, but I'll take anything.
>
> The reason I'm wondering is because I'm working on loanword phonology
> in Tlingit, how borrowings are adapted to fit Tlingit's rather
> peculiar sound system. (It lacks /l/, /m/, /b/, /p/, and /f/, among
> others.) Many of the loans are from CJ rather than English, and
> they've gone through some pretty peculiar changes, e.g. "waashdan"
> from "bastan". So if I could get examples of CJ terms from northern
> Indian speakers, I could get a better idea of how these loans were
> transformed during the borrowing process. Maybe I could even
> half-assedly reconstruct a Tlingit pronunciation of CJ in the process.
>
> The other question is about a couple of CJ vocabulary terms. What are
> words in CJ for "reindeer/caribou", "mountain goat", "Dall/mountain
> sheep", and "moose" (distinct from cattle)? Were these always local
> native terms or were there widespread CJ terms for these indigenous
> animals?
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
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