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<P><FONT SIZE=2>touché, you are quite right!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Roy</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: lilandr@yahoo.com [<A HREF="mailto:lilandr@yahoo.com">mailto:lilandr@yahoo.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:11 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Mitchell Roy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: maklak (was RE: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Well, was Service (the *Klondike* poet, remember)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>writing about the use of "muckluck" in the Central</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Yupik area, or about the use of "muckluck" (the term,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>not necessarily its precise original Yupik referent)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>somewhere closer to the Klondike?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I don't know the answer; I'm just pointing out the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>possibility that "maklak" might in fact have been in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>general (English, CJ, what have you) use in a region</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>where CJ was used, and if it was then used in CJ the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>fact that it wasn't of Chinook origin doesn't preclude</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>its qualifying as CJ.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>lilEnd </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>--- Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell@SEALASKA.COM> wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Other than that the places where mukluk was used,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> and where CJ was used, in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Alaska, were hundreds of miles apart? And there are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> no bearded seals</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> anywhere where CJ is attested? Maybe I'm missing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> something. First off, is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> 'mukluk' attested in CJ as a word for waterproof,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> sealskin boot?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Thanks.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Roy Michell</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Ros' Haruo [<A HREF="mailto:lilandbr@hotmail.com">mailto:lilandbr@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:24 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: roy.mitchell@SEALASKA.COM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Cc: CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Still, if there was in fact significant use of CJ in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Alaska and the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Klondike, isn't it likely that "mEqlEq" or "maklak"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> or something in between</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> was *in* Chinook (Jargon) regardless of where it may</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> have been *from*?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> lilEnd</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >From: Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell@SEALASKA.COM></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Reply-To: Mitchell Roy <roy.mitchell@SEALASKA.COM></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >To: CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:13:43 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Quick note: 'Mukluk' doesn't come from Chinook;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> rather, it's a loan from</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Central Yup'ik Eskimo, maklak, where it refers to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the species of seal</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >(bearded seal, a.k.a. thong seal) whence</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> hard-bottomed mukluks are made.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Roy Mitchell</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >From: Jon Burpee [<A HREF="mailto:jburpee@YAHOO.COM">mailto:jburpee@YAHOO.COM</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:37 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >To: CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Subject: Re: Jargon in Alaska Gold Rush?</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >I think Robert Service, the klondike poet, uses</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> terms here and there.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Check out "The Low-Down White" for an unpolitically</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> correct usage of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >'klooch' (kloochman) and Siwash.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Check out "The Ballad of Hard-Luck Henry for a use</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> of 'cheechako'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Check out "the Ballad of Blasphemous Bill" for use</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> of 'mucklucks' and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >'cheechako'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Undoubtedly, there are more in Service's poetry.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Jon Burpee</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Nadja Adolf <yakimabelle@YAHOO.COM> wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Anyone know of any sources on this?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ></FONT>
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