<div>in Lower Chinook t-k'ilak'ilama = "geese"</div> <div>Gibbs has:</div> <div>[Lower] Chinook okalakalama = "goose"</div> <div>Curtis has: </div> <div>[Lower] Chinook okulakElama = "goose"</div> <div>Cathlamet ikElakElE = "goose"</div> <div>Does this mean that the goose was grammatically feminine in Lower Chinook and masculine in Cathlamet? (or maybe in fact the Lower Chinook word refers to the female goose and the Cathlamet word to the gander?)</div> <div>As far as I understood, the nominal gender and noun prefixes in Chinookan are:</div> <div>i-/e- for masculine singular;</div> <div>u-/o- for feminine singular;</div> <div>s-/S- for dual (all genders?);</div> <div>t- for plural (all genders?)</div> <div>Did I get it right ? or not?</div> <div> </div> <div>Francisc</div> <div> </div> <div><BR><B><I>hzenk@PDX.EDU</I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">While it
is pretty clear that CW kalakala is from Chinookan, I'm not sure just<BR>exactly how (one of the real Chinookanists may be able to enlighten us). There<BR>are the nominalized forms based on the verbal stem -ka (or maybe it should be<BR>-ga) 'to fly':<BR><BR>Kathlamet (a la Hymes) q-t-k-ka-la 'fliers (lit., those-they-their-fly-ing) =<BR>birds'<BR>Lower Chinook (a la Boas) k-t-gE-ka-l 'fliers = birds'.<BR>Clackamas iLc'igala 'a bird' (L = barred-l, c' = glottalized "ts")<BR><BR>Then there are also the nouns:<BR><BR>Kathl i-q'iliq'li 'turkey'<BR>LChin t-k'ilak'ilama 'geese'<BR><BR>which may somehow be related. As also kalakala ultimately is? Henry<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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