Oregeon? ;-)<br><br>lilEnd<br>betting on an unmotivated epenthetic "e"<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Terry Glavin</b> <<a href="mailto:terry.glavin@gmail.com">terry.glavin@gmail.com
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2"> Along the Lower Fraser, spelling varies
- oolichan, eulachon, oolichen, etc - and among fishermen is almost exclusively
pronounced "hooligan".</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Byram and Lewis, in the Oregon Historical quarterly
a couple of years back, argue that "Oregeon" owes its name to oolichan, in a
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:04
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> "Eulachon" among the
Kwakwaka'wakw</div>
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<div><b><span style="color: blue;"><br>As a young man in the
late 1960s, I had the privilege of enjoying Eulachon oil in the company of
<span><i>Kwakwaka'wakw</i> chiefs and elders at '<i>Yalis</i>
(</span></span></b><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Alert</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"> </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Bay</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">
Reserve, </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Cormorant</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"> </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Island</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">
, B.C.)<span> </span>These are the First Nations
whom the Whites collectively called "Kwakiutl", a corruption of the name of
the </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Fort</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"> </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Rupert</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">
Band.</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span> </div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Chief
Peter S. Smith, <i>Sewidanakwula</i>, of the <i>Tlawitsis</i> Band of
<i>Kalokwis</i> (</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Turnour</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"> </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Island</span></b></span><span><b>
<span style="color: blue;">, B.C.) was our host.<span> </span>We had it as
thick gravy served over boiled potatoes.<span> </span>Although it had a
very strong aroma, it was delicious!</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span> </div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Chief
Peter Smith pronounced it `OO-lah-kun.<span> </span>He also called it
"<i>Tleena</i>", the <i>Kwakwaka'wakw</i> name in their <i>Kwakwala</i>
language.<span> </span>People also refer to it as "Grease".<span>
</span>The famous "Grease Trail" on </span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Vancouver
Island</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"> was
the trade route overland for trading this precious
commodity.</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span> </div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Is the
name "Eulachon" originally a <i><u>Ts</u>inuk</i> (Chinook) word, or was it
brought into the Chinook trade jargon like many words of foreign
origins?<span> </span>I would be curious to
know.</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span> </div>
<div><span><b><i><span style="color: blue;">Hayu
masi!</span></i></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span> </div>
<div><b><i><span style="color: blue;">L<u>a</u>k<sup>w</sup>'<u>a</u>l<u>a</u>s</span></i></b></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Tom
Speer</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Duwamish
Tribal Services Board</span></b></span></div>
<div><span><b><span style="color: blue;">Seattle</span></b></span><span><b><span style="color: blue;"></span></b></span></div>
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</span></span><br><b><i>James Crippen <<a href="mailto:jcrippen@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jcrippen@GMAIL.COM</a>></i></b>
wrote:</div>
<div>This is only tangentially related to Chinook Jargon, but
I think it's<br>the best place to ask this question. I'm interested in the
"eulachon"<br>fish (Thaleichthys pacificus,
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulachon" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulachon</a>),<br>also occasionally known as the
"candlefish". It's the little<br>herring-like smelt fish that has
cream-colored flesh and is extremely<br>oily. It is traditionally processed
for its oil which was used in<br>trade along "grease trails" up and down the
coast. I believe the name<br>comes from CJ. But the name for this fish, has a
few different<br>regional pronunciations in English in the PacNW. In Alaska
where I<br>grew up it was pronounced "hooligan", as with the British soccer
fans.<br>I'm curious about its pronunciation elsewhere along the coast, and
the<br>different ways people write it.<br><br>Hayu masi,<br>James
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