<div>Klahowya Ooshtaqi !</div> <div> </div> <div>as already discussed earlier in this list, the CJ name for "robin" is pil k'oaten (according to Boas, and after him Shaw), that is pil k'watin "red belly".</div> <div> </div> <div>Francisc<BR><BR><B><I>Scott Tyler <s.tylermd@COMCAST.NET></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:SmartTagType name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="City"
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size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>scott/ooshtaqi</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG href="mailto:Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG">Tony Johnson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG href="mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Blue Heron</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ixt tEnEs ikta: nayka tilixam
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COLOR: navy">Grand <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Ronde</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">OR</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">97347</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">503-879-2084<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The Chinook List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Leanne Riding<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:36 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've never seen a specific word for this bird, either. Not sure why there is not one, but perhaps this bird lacked usefulness in a CJ context?<BR><BR>Leanne<BR><BR><BR>Francisc Czobor wrote:
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The only CJ expression referring (also) to the heron I found in "The Chinook Book" of W.S. Phillips ("El Comancho"), under the heading KULLAKULLA:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">"Siah lepee kullakulla mitlite copo chuck illahee,"</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG> "A long legged bird that-lives-in the water-land (swamps)." (The crane, snipe or heron.)<o:p></o:p></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">But I don't know about any specific denomination for the blue heron.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"J. Barnes" <A href="mailto:saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM"><saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM></A></SPAN></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Jargon seems to have developed words for specific animals. Does anyone know if there's a word for a Blue Heron (also known as the Great Blue Heron)? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal
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