<div>Hayu masi, Tony, pus k'ilapay wawa !</div> <div> </div> <div>In this case, the bird whose wing bones were used to make the long needles for mats is any of them (herons, cranes etc.) or only a certain species?</div> <div> </div> <div>Francisc<BR><BR><B><I>Tony Johnson <Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </STYLE> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:SmartTagType name="PostalCode" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="State" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
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class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">aLqi ntsayka wawa.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">hayu masi (many thanks),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div
class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tony A. Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Cultural Education Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">9615 Grand Ronde Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Grand <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Ronde</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">OR</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">97347</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">503-879-2084<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR:
windowtext"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The Chinook List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Francisc Czobor<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:59 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">LaXayEm Tony,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have just a little question: "yuLqat thiya7wit" refers to the blue heron in particular or means "heron" in general? (are there several species of herons in the area?)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hayu masi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Tony Johnson <Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG></SPAN></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ixt tEnEs ikta: nayka tilixam Laska munk yuLqat k’ipwat (pus munk Liskwis) khapa yuLqat thiya7wit yaka <?xml:namespace prefix = u1 /><u1:City u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">lima</u1:place></u1:City></st1:place></st1:City> bon. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV>
<div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">hayu masi (many thanks),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tony A.
Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Cultural Education Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV><u1:Street u2:st="on"><u1:address u2:st="on"> <div class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">9615 Grand Ronde Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></u1:address></u1:Street></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Grand <u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:City u2:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Ronde</u1:City></st1:City>, <u1:State u2:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">OR</u1:State></st1:State> <u1:PostalCode u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode w:st="on">97347</u1:PostalCode></u1:place></st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">503-879-2084<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The Chinook List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Leanne Riding<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:36 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've never seen a specific word for this bird, either. Not sure why there is
not one, but perhaps this bird lacked usefulness in a CJ context?<BR><BR>Leanne<BR><BR><BR>Francisc Czobor wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The only CJ expression referring (also) to the heron I found in "The Chinook Book" of W.S. Phillips ("El Comancho"), under the heading KULLAKULLA:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">"Siah lepee kullakulla mitlite copo chuck illahee,"</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG> "A long legged bird that-lives-in the water-land (swamps)." (The crane, snipe or heron.)<o:p></o:p></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">But I don't know about any specific denomination for the blue
heron.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"J. Barnes" <A href="mailto:saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM"><saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM></A></SPAN></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Jargon seems to have developed words for
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