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<DIV><SPAN class=687483323-27042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Have
you got an etymology for skasayt, Tony? I'm just curious about what the dual
prefix refers to.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=687483323-27042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=687483323-27042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Also,
any idea why CW ended up with the Kathlamet word and not the CP
(o)tsiastsias?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=687483323-27042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=687483323-27042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>jlarmagost@verizon.net </FONT></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> The Chinook List
[mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tony
Johnson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 27, 2007 10:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Blue
Heron<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Blue Heron’s
specifically. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By the way: I never
knew the word Blue Heron as a child because my family always called them “Bay
Center Turkeys.” <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> is the Chinook Indian community
where many of us come from in recent years. This includes my family, my
wife’s family, as well as many well know Chinooks like Charles Cultee and Emma
Luscier. I can’t really say why they were referred to that
way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oh, and as for Scott
inquiry about Robin’s name—we usually say “pil tutush” or “pil tutush
kala-kala.” I don’t know that this is as taught by our elders, but is a
good fit. Some of us also use the word “skasayt” which is one of the original
words from the area.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">hayu masi (many
thanks),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tony A.
Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Cultural Education
Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Confederated Tribes of Grand
Ronde<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">9615 Grand Ronde
Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Grand <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Ronde</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">OR</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">97347</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">503-879-2084<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The Chinook
List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Francisc Czobor<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:51
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue
Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hayu masi, Tony, pus k'ilapay wawa
!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In this case, the bird whose wing bones were used to
make the long needles for mats is any of them (herons, cranes etc.) or only a
certain species?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Tony Johnson
<Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is a descriptor
for all birds of that type (Herons, Cranes,
etc.).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">aLqi ntsayka
wawa.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">hayu masi (many
thanks),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tony A.
Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Cultural Education
Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Confederated Tribes of Grand
Ronde<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><U1:STREET u2:st="on"><U1:ADDRESS u2:st="on">
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">9615 Grand Ronde
Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></U1:ADDRESS></U1:STREET></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Grand <U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><U1:CITY
u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Ronde</U1:CITY></st1:City>, <U1:STATE u2:st="on"><st1:State
w:st="on">OR</U1:STATE></st1:State> <U1:POSTALCODE
u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">97347</U1:POSTALCODE></U1:PLACE></st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">503-879-2084<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The Chinook
List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Francisc
Czobor<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
April 26, 2007 1:59 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue
Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">LaXayEm
Tony,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have just a little question: "yuLqat thiya7wit"
refers to the blue heron in particular or means "heron" in general? (are
there several species of herons in the
area?)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hayu masi,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Tony Johnson
<Tony.Johnson@GRANDRONDE.ORG></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ixt tEnEs ikta:
nayka tilixam Laska munk yuLqat k’ipwat (pus munk Liskwis) khapa yuLqat
thiya7wit yaka <U3:CITY u4:st="on"><U3:PLACE u4:st="on"><U1:CITY
u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">lima</U3:PLACE></U3:CITY></U1:PLACE></U1:CITY></st1:place></st1:City>
bon. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">hayu masi (many
thanks),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Tony A.
Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Cultural Education
Coordinator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Confederated Tribes of Grand
Ronde<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><U3:STREET u4:st="on"><U3:ADDRESS u4:st="on">
<DIV><U1:STREET u2:st="on"><U1:ADDRESS u2:st="on">
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">9615 Grand Ronde
Road</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></U1:ADDRESS></U1:STREET></DIV></DIV>
<DIV></U3:ADDRESS></U3:STREET>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> The
Chinook List [mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Leanne
Riding<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
April 25, 2007 1:36 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Blue
Heron</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've never seen a specific word for this bird,
either. Not sure why there is not one, but perhaps this bird lacked
usefulness in a CJ context?<BR><BR>Leanne<BR><BR><BR>Francisc Czobor
wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The only CJ expression referring (also) to the
heron I found in "The Chinook Book" of W.S. Phillips ("El Comancho"),
under the heading
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<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">"Siah lepee kullakulla mitlite copo
chuck illahee,"</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG> "A long legged bird
that-lives-in the water-land (swamps)." (The crane, snipe or
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">But I don't know about any specific denomination
for the blue heron.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Francisc<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"J. Barnes" <A
href="mailto:saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM"><saghalie.illahee@YAHOO.COM></A></SPAN></I></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Jargon seems to have developed words for
specific animals. Does anyone know if there's a word for a Blue
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