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<P>Thank you</P>
<P>Marilyn</P>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message ----<BR>From: CHINOOK automatic digest system <LISTSERV@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG><BR>To: CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<BR>Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:00:41 PM<BR>Subject: CHINOOK Digest - 24 Mar 2008 to 25 Mar 2008 (#2008-18)<BR><BR>There are 2 messages totalling 99 lines in this issue.<BR><BR>Topics of the day:<BR><BR> 1. Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich Islands"<BR> 2. Unusual sidelight on Hyasman<BR><BR>To respond to the CHINOOK list, click 'REPLY ALL'. To respond privately to the sender of a message, click 'REPLY'. Hayu masi!<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:15:07 -0800<BR>From: Scott Tyler <<A href="mailto:s.tylermd@COMCAST.NET"
ymailto="mailto:s.tylermd@COMCAST.NET">s.tylermd@COMCAST.NET</A>><BR>Subject: Re: Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich Islands"<BR><BR>Thats an entertaining introduction to the Washington Territory.<BR>On the Olympic Peninsula it is even more fun---Chimicum, Moclips, Taholah, <BR>LaPush, Ozette, Clallam Bay, Neah Bay (Nunez de Gaona Bahia Blanka), Pysht, <BR>Elwa, Hoh.<BR>It would be nice to put up signs like Sasquatch Crossing---where locals have <BR>seen these beings.<BR>Scott<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Dave Robertson" <<A href="mailto:ddr11@UVIC.CA" ymailto="mailto:ddr11@UVIC.CA">ddr11@UVIC.CA</A>><BR>To: <<A href="mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" ymailto="mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</A>><BR>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:00 PM<BR>Subject: Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich <BR>Islands"<BR><BR><BR>>
Available as a free e-book reprint at <BR>> <A href="http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/13222" target=_blank>http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/13222</A>.<BR>><BR>> New York: Harper & Brothers, 1875.<BR>><BR>> His impression of local place names in Washington Territory, including <BR>> those<BR>> from Chinook Jargon, is amusing:<BR>><BR>> "When, at Kalama, you enter Washington Territory, your ears begin to be<BR>> assailed by the most barbarous names imaginable. On your way to Olympia<BR>> by rail you cross a river called the Skookum-Chuck; your train stops at<BR>> places named Newaukum, Tumwater, and Toutle; and if you seek further, you<BR>> will hear of whole counties labeled Wahkiakum, or Snohomish, or Kitsap, or<BR>> Klikatat; and Cowlitz, Hookium, and Nenolelops greet and offend you. They<BR>> complain in Olympia that Washington Territory gets but little immigration;<BR>> but what wonder? What man,
having the whole American continent to chose<BR>> from, would willingly date his letters from the county of Snohomish, or<BR>> bring up his children in the city of Nenolelops? The village of Tumwater<BR>> is, as I am ready to bear witness, very pretty indeed; but surely an<BR>> emigrant would think twice before he established himself either there or<BR>> at Toutle. Seattle is sufficiently barbarous; Steilacoom is no better; and<BR>> I suspect that the Northern Pacific Railroad terminus has been fixed at<BR>> Tacoma--if it is fixed there--because that is one of the few places<BR>> on Puget Sound whose name does not inspire horror and disgust."<BR>><BR>> Is "Nenolelops" a version of "Humptulips"? Or maybe a separate Lower<BR>> Chehalis name?<BR>><BR>> Also, add this book's misspelling "Chistook" to your synonymy for <BR>> "Chinook".<BR>><BR>> --Dave R<BR>><BR>> To respond to the CHINOOK list,
click 'REPLY ALL'. To respond privately <BR>> to the sender of a message, click 'REPLY'. Hayu masi! <BR><BR>To respond to the CHINOOK list, click 'REPLY ALL'. To respond privately to the sender of a message, click 'REPLY'. Hayu masi!<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:27:01 -0400<BR>From: Dave Robertson <<A href="mailto:ddr11@UVIC.CA" ymailto="mailto:ddr11@UVIC.CA">ddr11@UVIC.CA</A>><BR>Subject: Unusual sidelight on Hyasman<BR><BR>That's a Jargon surname we've talked about before. (See the archives of<BR>this list.)<BR><BR><A href="http://tokencatalog.com/display_records.php?SearchString=hyasman&SubmitFilter=Search&action=DisplayRecords" target=_blank>http://tokencatalog.com/display_records.php?SearchString=hyasman&SubmitFilter=Search&action=DisplayRecords</A><BR><BR>Here's a listing, in a catalog of Washington tokens, of a 5-cent piece
for<BR>trade with "Frank Hyasman" of Taholah.<BR><BR>There are also tokens listed from Pilchuck, Washington and a Pilchuck Saloon<BR>in Woodland, WA.<BR><BR>I also noticed one from The Tyee in Seattle.<BR><BR>So there's a bit of a Jargon presence in early Washington numismatics!<BR><BR>By the way, when I was out walking in Spokane with my kids the other day, we<BR>found what must be an old garbage dump containing LOTS of antique bottles,<BR>buttons, china, and cans. Some must be a century old, judging by a few<BR>minutes of googling. (Now I realize that some other items I've picked up by<BR>the Spokane River etc. must be equally old.)<BR><BR>This reminded me of the infamous "Waw-Waw" bottle that we've discussed in<BR>the past. Now that there's lots more info on the Internet, including some<BR>very clear images, it appears that that bottle had no relation to Chinook<BR>Jargon. It's from a popular manufacturer of hot
sauce!<BR><BR>--Dave R<BR><BR>To respond to the CHINOOK list, click 'REPLY ALL'. To respond privately to the sender of a message, click 'REPLY'. Hayu masi!<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>End of CHINOOK Digest - 24 Mar 2008 to 25 Mar 2008 (#2008-18)<BR>*************************************************************<BR><BR></DIV><BR></DIV></div><br>
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