<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Wow, thanks all for the wonderful suggestions! I'll print these out and show it to our skipper.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>It'll be a while before we decide on an official name, so suggestions will still be welcome from late comers to the conversation.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Dave, I have a word I learned at the Grand Ronde Chinook class for downriver - "may?mi".<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I believe there was also another word for upriver, but I can't find it.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Scott, is "ta" short for t'amanEwas?</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Hayu mersi mtsayka!</font></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Don duMas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:don_dumas@yahoo.com">don_dumas@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Konaway Tillikums (or however you choose to spell it) is the most euphonius and catchy of the bunch. Its easy to remember, says what you want, is alliterative, is non-exclusive, and fun to say. Its got my vote! </div>
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<div>As I recall, "Tecouche-tesse" (tsEqw?) was what many of the plateau indians called the Columbia River. I don't know in what language, what it means or how widespread it was among the natives and can't remember exactly where I heard this but I think it was in Franchere's, Bonneville's or Henry's work. <br>
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<div class="im">To: <a href="mailto:CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" target="_blank">CHINOOK@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br></div>Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 9:32 PM
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<div>Hi Tanya,<br><br>Of course I don't have an exact translation of "intertribal" for you, but<br>I've come across a few phrases that are close to what you've suggested. If<br>you're looking for something short 'n' punchy, maybe a couple words like<br>
"shawash khanamakwst" would do it--"Natives together".<br><br>For "upriver" I have something more definite. In the CJ stuff written by<br>Native people, I've noticed they say "kikwEli" for "downriver". (Just that<br>
one word, not *kikwEli tsEqw or anything fancy.) I'm not sure they ever<br>*said* the opposite, but it seems like "saXali" for "upriver" would work. <br>And you might not expect "saXali" to mean that unless you heard this from<br>
me, so I guess this kind of puts you into a secret society :)<br><br>--Dave<br><br><br><br>On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:55:49 -0700, Tanya Harrison <<a href="http://us.mc301.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=harristb@EOU.EDU" target="_blank">harristb@EOU.EDU</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>>Laxayem Chinook users,<br>><br>>I'm trying to find Chinuk wawa translations for 'intertribal' and<br>>'upriver'.<br>><br>>A group of us in Pendleton are forming a canoe family, and the skipper wants<br>
>our family to have a Chinuk wawa name. We're an intertribal group, so we've<br>>been trying to translate the word intertribal into Chinuk wawa, ideas are<br>>khanawi tilixam, khanawi Laskta, khanawi Laska, or hayu shawash tilixam.<br>
><br>>Another thought is to translate the word 'upriver' into Chinuk wawa, since<br>>we are located up the Columbia.<br>><br>>Any ideas or suggestions?<br>><br>>Hayu mersi,<br>>Tanya Harrison<br>
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