[Corpora-List] Quotable Statistics on Unstructured Data on theWWW

[Daniel Gerber]

Hi Reinhard,
Thank you for your opinion!

On 06.12.2013, at 13:52, Reinhard Rapp <reinhardrapp at gmx.de> wrote:

> Dear Daniel,
> 
> Please don't take this personally! Adam just in a pointed way worked out that there is a different view on this between linguists and engineers, and that he prefers the former one. It is just one of many examples where different communities working on similar topics look at things quite diffeently (e.g. semantic web community and computational linguistics community).

I totally agree on that and that’s okay. 

> It is Adam's privilege to be able to descirbe such matters in a very concise and entertaining way. Let's not discourage him to do so! He has always very interesting things to say! Political correctness is boring!

I’m not a member of the computational linguistics community as you probably have inferred by now. For that precise fact, I’ve tried to seek help from the NLP community multiple times, but what I get in return is: your point of view is completely wrong so I won’t help you (understand things my way). Don’t get me wrong, political incorrectness is funny, but without any attempt to actually help to bridge/close the gap between different research communities, I consider this as destructive. 

Daniel

ps: Thanks to all useful commenters.

> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Reinhard
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Daniel Gerber
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 1:12 PM
> To: Adam Kilgarriff
> Cc: corpora at uib.no
> Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] Quotable Statistics on Unstructured Data on theWWW
> 
> Hallo Adam,
> 
> On 06.12.2013, at 12:45, Adam Kilgarriff <adam at lexmasterclass.com> wrote:
> 
>> I always squirm when I hear text referred to as unstructured data. (Daniel - I see you do too, from the '(semi-)'.)    It feels like a teenager declaring everyone over 25 as old.
> 
> As what do you see text then? Yes, I typically refer to text as being unstructured, tables and so on as semi structured und databases as structured.
> I’m sorry that you feel greatly offended by my understanding. But your reply does not answer my question nor does it help me to understand a different point of view any better.
> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> (PS - I first came across it in the IBM-promoted UIMA, the U is unstructured, so the inventors of that acronym should be shot. Not sure if the initiative is ongoing.)
> 
> I think you should apologize to the people you want to be shot. I can’t believe that someone (especially with a scientific background as you have) articulates in such manner.
> 
> Daniel
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 December 2013 08:48, Daniel Gerber <dgerber at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m searching for any quotable statistics for the distribution of structured vs.  (semi-)unstructured data on the web.
>> So far I could only find some blog post’s about Big Data statistics or presentations which claim a 15%-85% distribution but forget to quote the sources for this claim.
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>> Daniel
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