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Dear Colleagues<br><br>
I am not sure the way suggested by Adam is the right thing to do, <br>
ELRA and LDC have been trying to negotiate such rights in order to
provide the users of corpora with good and legally-cleared resources and
we are happy to help request and get the authorizations to use the data
in a more sound and clean legal context.<br><br>
of course we can all do whatever we feel fair and then if no one sue us
it is fine but just imagine that after your 5 years work someone come
across your publication in which you refer to the data and managed to
prevent you from such reference/publication or even ask you to delete all
such data .. <br><br>
Best regards<br>
Khalid CHOUKRI<br>
European Language Resources Association<br><br>
<br><br>
At Friday 13/06/2003 15:36(), Adam Kilgarriff wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>On the one hand, if your enemies
are rich enough you'll lose.<br><br>
On the other you're probably less worth sueing than Google and they
are<br>
still going strong (anyone out there from Google? Your
contribution<br>
most welcome), and it doesn't sound like you are doing anything with
any<br>
salient legal difference. (Getting authors' agreements takes
huge<br>
amounts of resources and isn't feasible; listing references doesn't<br>
help.)<br><br>
People do get unhappy about their pictures and audio being grabbed
from<br>
the web for use in other people's databases, and I have heard of
cases<br>
of web developers having to rein in their ambitions because
objections<br>
have been made. As yet, mercifully, that hasn't happened with text
-<br>
people don't seem alarmed at the idea that the text they publish on
the<br>
web gets re-used. Let's all pray it stays that way (though sooner
or<br>
later we're bound to get chancers trying it on - can't help fearing
the<br>
web is in its honeymoon phase, and the racketeers will mess it all
up<br>
before too long).<br><br>
In the meantime - take courage! Do it!<br><br>
<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Adam<br><br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: owner-corpora@lists.uib.no [<a href="mailto:owner-corpora@lists.uib.no" eudora="autourl">mailto:owner-corpora@lists.uib.no</a>]<br>
On<br>
> Behalf Of delucca@nilc.icmc.usp.br<br>
> Sent: 13 June 2003 13:49<br>
> To: corpora@hd.uib.no<br>
> Subject: [Corpora-List] Legal aspects of compiling corpora<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Dear Linguists and Lawyers,<br>
> <br>
> I am troubled with Legal aspects of corpora compiling. I am in<br>
> doubt if is an illegal procedure storage webpages (or part of them)<br>
> in a database (see at http://www.dictionarium.com/project.htm),<br>
> not available to public, and display its contents as short<br>
collocations<br>
> less than 100 characters by time by search method.<br>
> <br>
> On the other hand, the Internet search engines uses cached (temporary<br>
?)<br>
> copies of the sites and display a short of the web pages.<br>
> <br>
> My procedure is wrong? Which the Legal difference? I need ask<br>
permission<br>
> for each website to storage its pages? If I mention the source and the<br>
> author<br>
> I will be protecting the copyrights?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> I look forward to hearing from you.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Yours Sincerely,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> J. L. De Lucca<br>
> <br>
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