<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>Rob Malouf kirjoitti 15. des. 2006 kello 19.06:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Besides, none of the standard grep implementations that I know of handle Unicode (at least not in any useful way).</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gnu grep 2.5.1 supports Unicode, though I guess it's debatable just how useful it is.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>The next version is supposed to be much better on that front.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Well, it is useful for anyone working with languages not covered by ASCII or the ISO/IEC code tables. Myself working with North Sámi, I would have had a hard time without a working grep command, but 2.5.1 works fine for multi-byte Unicode text, and is just what I need.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Some unix commands (rev, etc.) do not handle multibyte characters, but grep does. Based on my expericences on the Mac, I would recommend using a recent bash shell (3.00) (older shells have BCKSP deleting only one byte at a time, cumbersome with Unicode).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As for the initial question to the thread, I would suggest using putty.exe or something similar and having the students connected to a linux box. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But yes, there are situations when people will insist on using Windows, so if anyone has a reference to a set of DOS commands duplicating the top-ten-or-so unix commands for text processing (if something along that line exists), it would be nice to know.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Trond.</DIV></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV> <P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Trond Trosterud t +47 7764 4763</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Institutt for språkvitskap, Det humanistiske fakultet m +47 950 70140</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">N-9037 Universitetet i Tromsø, Noreg f +47 7764 5216</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Trond.Trosterud (a) hum.uit.no <A href="http://www.hum.uit.no/a/trond/">http://www.hum.uit.no/a/trond/</A></P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; "><BR><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>