<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>Oliver Mason kirjoitti 17. des. 2006 kello 22.21:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On 17/12/06, Trond Trosterud <<A href="mailto:trond.trosterud@hum.uit.no">trond.trosterud@hum.uit.no</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">But yes, there are situations when people will insist on using Windows, so</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">if anyone has a reference to a set of DOS commands...</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sorry to be a bit off-topic, but where if not at university would</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">students be able to learn about Unix?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I am stunned that anybody can</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">get any serious work done in text processing *without* the multitude</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of useful Unix commands.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>So am I.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From a pedagogic point of view I'd say that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">it would be the best solution to gently introduce the students to the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">idea that there are other operating systems besides Windows, and they</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">might even be more suitable for academic work.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>With the free</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">availability of Linux on live-CDs there is no real excuse anymore...</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I agree.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I don't want to start a flame war about the relative merits of this or</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that OS, but why not expose the students to Unix rather than find a</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">complicated way of emulating some of its powers on a DOS command-line</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">within Windows?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>As long as they are students on my coursed I give them Unix (Mac OSX, as it is the preferred OS of our faculty). So, at least I agree with you, and there will be no flame wars.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>For me, the problem arises when I cooperate with projects off-campus, who have already bought their equipment (no Macintoshes!) and insist on using Windows (they have no Linux support within a radius of 800 km). That's why I ask for dos advices.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Trond.</DIV><BR><DIV> <P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Trond Trosterud t +47 7764 4763</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Institutt for språkvitskap, Det humanistiske fakultet m +47 950 70140</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">N-9037 Universitetet i Tromsø, Noreg f +47 7764 5216</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">Trond.Trosterud (a) hum.uit.no <A href="http://www.hum.uit.no/a/trond/">http://www.hum.uit.no/a/trond/</A></P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------</P><P style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal Monaco; "><BR><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>