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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“</span></font><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>the relationship between
collocationality and (what are becoming known as) multi-word expressions?”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>John Sinclair - The search for units of
meaning<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(orig publ Textus IX 1996; republ as Chapt
2, Trust the Text, Routledge 2004)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>is a good place to start…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All topics are potentially corpus-tractable?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Ramesh Krishnamurthy<br>
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Director, ACORN (Aston Corpus Network project): <a
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
corpora-bounces@uib.no [mailto:corpora-bounces@uib.no] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dr DJ Hatch<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 31 March 2008 10:51<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Adam Kilgarriff; Chris Butler;
corpora@uib.no<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> {Disarmed} Re:
[Corpora-List] Collocations & BNC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Thanks for that. I was going to
complain, but thought it could be a result of my use of Mac OS 10 + Safari. The
new link works, perfectly, and the paper looks intriguing. Just as soon as I
find the right box and unpack my printer I shall read it in the sun. <br>
<br>
But do you also know of anything available on the relationship between
collocationality and (what are becoming known as) multi-word expressions? I am
aware that Wray wrote on the latter recently, though I yet to get hold of the
book. I believe that someone on the list recently proposed a workshop(?) on a
corpus-based approach to MWEs, but, of course I’ve lost the reference.<br>
<br>
Oh, by the way: corpus, corpus, corpus.<br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br>
<br>
DJ Hatch<br>
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On 31/3/08 10:59, "Adam Kilgarriff" <adam@lexmasterclass.com>
wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>All,<br>
I gave a dud link yesterday, apologies. Should have been<br>
<a
href="http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk/Publications/2006-K-ELX-colloc.doc"><http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk/Publications/2006-K-ELX-colloc.doc></a>
<br>
Collocationality (and how to measure it) <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Proc.
Euralex.</span></i> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Torino</st1:City>,
<st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region></st1:place> <br>
<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk/publications.htm">http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk/publications.htm</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On 31/03/2008, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Chris Butler</span></b>
<csblists@telefonica.net> wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Adam, the link to your paper on collocationality seems to be
broken.<br>
Best wishes,<br>
Chris Butler, Honorary Professor, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Swansea</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Adam Kilgarriff <a
href="mailto:adam@lexmasterclass.com"><mailto:adam@lexmasterclass.com></a>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bob Parks <a
href="mailto:bobp@clarityconnect.com"><mailto:bobp@clarityconnect.com></a>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> corpora@hd.uib.no <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:51
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Corpora-List]
Collocations & BNC<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob,<br>
<br>
the problem is, it is not clear how to measure "degree of
collocation" (or, worse, "the degree to which it is [they are??]
bound"). I proposed a method for the first task in <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Collocationality</span></b> (and how to measure it) <a
href="http://216.239.59.104/Publications/2006-K-ELX-colloc.doc"><b><font
color=red><span style='color:red;font-weight:bold'>MailScanner warning:
numerical links are often malicious:</span></font></b>
<http://216.239.59.104/Publications/2006-K-ELX-colloc.doc></a> <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Proc. Euralex 2006.</span></i> <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Torino</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region></st1:place>.
<br>
<br>
And of course, the measure(s) you want all depend in what you want it/them for,<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30/03/2008, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Bob Parks</span></b>
<bobp@clarityconnect.com> wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Greetings:<br>
Does anyone know of a ranked list of words measuring both word<br>
frequency and degree of collocation .... In other words, a list that<br>
ranks words in terms of the frequency with which they appear in text<br>
(e.g. BNC), and also the frequency with which they appear with other<br>
words, and factoring in the degree to which the collocation is bound?<br>
Thanks,<br>
Bob<br>
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