<div>dear all,</div>
<div>I think Adam is partially right, but, as someone who does engage in DDL, I'd like to point out another couple of reasons why there is so little "out there":</div>
<div>(i) many materials are created for individuals or small groups and therefore not put online/published as 'general' language notes; and </div>
<div>(ii) others are created on the fly in real time, and so never even make it into a paper format, i.e. the concordances are put up on screen in class and the teacher (me, but I'm sure others do the same) leads students through the analysis. Once I get the interactive whiteboard up and running, such ad-hoc exercises may well become more amenable to digital archiving, but for now they remain ephemeral.<br>
<br>best,</div>
<div>Gill </div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 16/04/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Adam Kilgarriff</b> <<a href="mailto:adam@lexmasterclass.com">adam@lexmasterclass.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>Dear Alex,</div>
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<div>you say<br clear="all"><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">> </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Is there really so little out there? Why? </span><br>
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<div>I think the reason is simple: Concordances are too tough for learners.</div>
<div>So DDL has not taken off. After 20 years, it remains a tiny minority interest.<br> </div>
<div>Our response is to select corpus sentences according to readability. </div>
<div>The beta version of the Sketch Engine now has an option to sort concordances </div>
<div>"best first", from a learner's point of view, and we are working on other ways of </div>
<div>using corpora in language learning in which we only show </div>
<div>users sentences which they are likely to be able to read and understand.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Adam</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/4/15 Alex Boulton <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Alex.Boulton@univ-nancy2.fr" target="_blank">Alex.Boulton@univ-nancy2.fr</a>>:<br>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><br>I recently requested information on any <b>published materials</b> or <b>on-line materials</b></span></p></div></blockquote>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><span></span>adopting a data-driven learning approach. My thanks to the following for their replies:</span></p>
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<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Adam Turner </span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chris Tribble </span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike Barlow</span>
<li><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brett Reynolds</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Stéphanie O'Riordan</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Antoinette Renouf</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">James Thomas</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Linda Bawcom</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Marcia Veirano Pinto</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Przemek Kaszubski</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Simon Smith</span>
<li><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Milton</span></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></li></ul>
<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Unfortunately (if unsurprisingly), there were no real additions to the publications</span></p></div></blockquote>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><span></span>I listed in the original mail. Is there really so little out there? Why?</span></p></div></blockquote>
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