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'You lie' not a present tense? Surely, you jest.<br>
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Marc<br>
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Leo Schmitt wrote:
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cite="mid:2395bc300909171315i40ab32eyc732b0bccc9ea9b3@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I'm not sure I agree that 'you lie' should be interpreted
as a simple present. The phrase has entered colloquial language with a
pretty strong disbursement having the meaning of disagreement with a
particular statement. See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you+lie"
target="_blank">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you+lie</a><br>
My two cents.<br>
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peace,<br>
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Leo<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:46 AM, chris brew <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:brew.2@osu.edu"
target="_blank">brew.2@osu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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joe wilson's "you lie!", to me, is odd. if it is discourse deixis then
i think a fully competent native speaker unconstrained by congressional
rules would have said either "that is a lie" or "you are lying". the
natural interpretation of "you lie!" is as a claim that obama
habitually lies. if wilson was doing his "spontaneous outburst" after
careful thought and preparation, then the wording may have been quite
deliberate, so as to avoid the outright claim that what obama just said
was a lie.
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<div>for the larger questions, see donna byron's work on deixis. in
natural texts and dialogs there are a lot of potential targets for
deixis, including many that are not easy to associate with anything
present in the surface form of the text. (my summary, not donna's, read
her work if you want the real scoop)</div>
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<div>chris<br>
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<div>On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:34 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:CRuehlemann@aol.com"
target="_blank">CRuehlemann@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear All</div>
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<div>I'd be grateful for pointers to corpus research on deictic
phenomena including any deictic category: person deixis (e.g. personal
pronouns), place deixis (reference to location, such as <i>over there</i>),
time deixis (like <i>yesterday</i> and tense), discourse deixis
(reference to the discourse, such as Joe Wilson's "You lie!"), social
deixis (reference to social relationship and role), emotional - or
empathetic - deixis (indices of personal involvement).</div>
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<div>Any hints are greatly appreciated.</div>
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<div>Chris</div>
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