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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> corpora-bounces@uib.no
[mailto:corpora-bounces@uib.no] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Louw<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> corpora@uib.no; Angus Grieve-Smith<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Corpora-List] adverbial 'behind'<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:10.0pt'><span style='font-family:
  "Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello all. The line of best fit for unpacking this
  has nothing to do with grammar or syntax. It is proximity and context of
  situation. Angus comes closest in my opinion. Firth would have said: ‘one
  meaning of ‘behind’ is its collocability with <i>shit, bullshit, happen,
  shooting etc’.</i>The semantic prosody provides the context of situation and
  the concomitant levels of emotion. Collocation is as Firth says ‘abstracted
  at the level of syntax’ and has nothing to do with concepts. Angus has
  collected all of the relevant lines. SP does the rest. Drop the grammar and
  find the (A) relevant persons personalities (B) relevant objects e.g. guns
  and (C) the results of the verbal action and other action if you like …
  prison. All done in 1957 and automated by the corpus. Bill </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <br>
  --- On <b>Sat, 5/29/10, Angus Grieve-Smith <i><grvsmth@panix.com></i></b>
  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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  From: Angus Grieve-Smith <grvsmth@panix.com><br>
  Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] adverbial 'behind'<br>
  To: corpora@uib.no<br>
  Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 7:03 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal>On 5/29/2010 2:47 PM, E. Bashir wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
  <pre>Given all this, it looks like we have a semantic development in this dialect such that behind (spatial) > behind (temporal) > causal connection.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>  <o:p></o:p></pre>
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      I agree that it's a causal connection, but I'm guessing
  that it developed out of the "responsibility" sense, not out of a
  temporal sense.  If it already existed in a temporal sense, we should
  find things like "coincidentally, he went to jail for another offense
  behind that stickup," but we don't - yet.<br>
  <br>
  On 5/29/2010 2:09 PM, Marc FRYD wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal>Thanks indeed to you all!  And point taken about the
  syntactic status...<br>
  Re the 'behind' (preposition!) use in that particular example, is it standard
  English usage? I ask, because I am not at all familiar with it in British
  English.<br>
  I now understand 'behind' to mean something like 'because' (thanks to JC
  Khalifa, Linda Bawcome, E.Bashir). <br>
  My initial reaction of excitement was frustrated because I thought it looked
  like a case of an elusive aspectual perfective periphrasis which I've only
  found mentioned once in Visser (1973: 2211) who quoted the following:
  "E's behind telling tu Mr. Baker" (1892 Sarah Hewett, <i>Peasant
  Speech of Devon</i>, 21). Visser has this meaning the same as the perfective
  "after -ing" periphrasis of Irish English. Having lived a number of
  years in Devon, I must say that I never had the good fortune to come across
  any other occurrence of this particular turn of phrase...<o:p></o:p></p>
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      This seems to be an independent, but parallel, development
  from that.  It's definitely not standard English, and I don't remember
  hearing it before.  But from the places we've seen it attested (The
  Wire, Oprah, Michael Vick, "Lajeep" on Urbandictionary), it seems
  to be centered in African American English.  Not the New York dialect,
  and probably not Chicago, but Mid-Atlantic, and possibly other regions.<o:p></o:p></p>
  <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>                               -Angus B. Grieve-Smith<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>                               <a
  href="http://us.mc653.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=grvsmth@panix.com"
  target="_blank">grvsmth@panix.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div>
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