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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Robert,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the info,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am looking for small vocabularies that
could conceivably be interpreted by software custom written to do so. The
choice of vocabulary I was looking for was, initially smaller than 2,000
although that is a larger number I may have to accept. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The requirement for proper interpretation
is that each of the N words be defined in terms of some others, or said word be
individually interpretable, in a way that fits the quirks and angles of the
English language as used by a young person, with little world knowledge other
than what has been directly experienced. Things that are embedded into
common English, such as verbs about liquids, containers, designation phrases,
etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wierzbicka’s primitive set of 60 or
so would be ideally small and easy to build, but is probably not expressive
enough to serve as an effective kernel vocabulary. Masterman’s reported
100 concepts, with 15,000 compositions of the 100 expressed, along with the
specific relations used to represent those compositions with further concepts,
might be a core, if not a full kernel vocabulary. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a vocabulary with those
characteristics that springs to mind? Any suggestions appreciated <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Rich</span></font><font color=black><span
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Rich Cooper<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>EnglishLogicKernel.com</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Robert Parks
[mailto:rqparks@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 09, 2011
12:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rich Cooper; corpora@uib.no<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'David Eddy'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Corpora-List]
describing languages as [link]-[sem]-[morphsyn] tripplets...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you're looking for small vocabularies, there are several associated
with ESL dictionaries, such as Longman's and Macmillans. Both have
approximately 2000 words, and Wordsmyth also has a 2000 word vocabulary used in
its Beginner's Dictionary. (http://www.wordsmyth.net) We're also using a
1500 word vocabulary in our 1st reader's dictionary for K-2 school children.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At 12:05 PM -0800 1/9/11, Rich Cooper wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi John and David,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>This is quote from John's web site link below:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Margaret Masterman's system at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Cambridge</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
(1961) was the first to be called a semantic network. She developed a list of
100 primitive concept types, such as Folk, Stuff, Thing, Do, and Be. In terms
of those primitives, her group defined a conceptual dictionary of 15,000
entries. She organized the concept types into a lattice, which permits
inheritance from multiple supertypes. The basic principles and even many of the
primitive concepts have survived in more recent systems of preference semantics
(Wilks & Fass 1992).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>John, is there somewhere I can find the 100 concept
types and the 15,000 entries? If they have been time tested as a core of
concepts, they should have value in refinement. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>David has been interested in small vocabularies for
companies, and may also be interested in the Masterman concept types. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Wierzbicka's primitive concepts number even less
than 100. I wonder if there is much overlap between the two vocabularies?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>-Rich</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Sincerely,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>EnglishLogicKernel.com</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: corpora-bounces@uib.no [mailto:corpora-bounces@uib.no] On Behalf Of
sowa@bestweb.net<br>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:39 AM<br>
To: corpora@uib.no<br>
Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] describing languages as [link]-[sem]-[morphsyn]
tripplets...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Do you know of these types of language analysis
(based on</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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