<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><span>Dear all<br><br>Thanks Martin for opening this up, I'm sure there are lots of people who do use the web and feel a built guilty about it... Ah, the snobbery on both sides! Webbies: mine's bigger than yours; corpies: but look what I can do with mine.<br><br>Surely it all depends on what you want to put in and what you want to get out. For the purposes of language teaching & learning, for example (I can hear the groans already), teachers and learners may not be able to invest very much time in creating corpora or mastering the tools and interfaces available (even fairly simple ones), at least in initial stages. Since they're using Google anyway, maybe showing them how to get the most out of that could be a useful first step, which might lead on to using eg WebCorp or KWicFinder, to SketchEngine & BootCAT, to CoCA and the BNC, to AntConc and WordSmith Tools - which is not a bad potential progression for non-linguists (though not necessarily in that order - and certainly not an exhaustive list). Any way in which is unthreatening and is immediately useful must be better than no way in at all (or than a way in that's completely off-putting).<br><br>Inevitably, if you're working with one you're likely only to see the advantages compared to the disadvantages of the other. So yes, there is definitely debate to be continued!<br><br>Best<br>alex<br>PS Currently working on just this topic for the EuroCALL conference in Nottingham in Aug/Sep.<br><br><br><span name="x"></span><font size="2"><b><span style="font-family: Arial;">
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<p class="titre2" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span class="Object" id="OBJ_PREFIX_DWT523"><a href="http://revues.univ-nancy2.fr/melangesCrapel/" target="_blank">http://revues.univ-nancy2.fr/melangesCrapel/</a></span></span></font></p><span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><b>De: </b>"Martin Wynne" <martin.wynne@oucs.ox.ac.uk><br><b>À: </b>corpora@uib.no<br><b>Envoyé: </b>Jeudi 3 Février 2011 17:43:09<br><b>Objet: </b>[Corpora-List] Do we still need language corpora?<br><br>Do we still need language corpora? Is the selection and preparation of <br>the carefully crafted corpus a waste of time and money these days when <br>large amounts of language data are freely available on the web?<br><br>If you are interested in this question then come along to a debate, <br>organised by Martin Wynne and Ylva Berglund (Oxford) on the afternoon of <br>June 1st 2011, and as a pre-conference event at the ICAME conference in <br>Oslo.<br><br>More details are available at:<br><br> http://www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/research/conferences/2011/icame2011/workshops.html<br><br>The session will be a formal debate, with two speakers for and two <br>against the motion, with the opportunity for questions from the floor, <br>and a summing up by the speakers, ending with a vote by the audience. <br>The motion will be:<br><br>"Language corpora are no longer necessary for linguistic research."<br><br>All participants in the ICAME conference are warmly encouraged to come <br>along and participate in what promises to be an entertaining and <br>important debate on a key question confronting corpus linguistics today.<br><br>Time and place<br><br>The workshop will be held in the afternoon between 14.00 and 16.00 on <br>Wednesday 1 June at the conference hotel and main venue, the Clarion <br>Royal Christiania Hotel, located in Oslo city centre. After the <br>workshop, the conference proper will start at 17.00 with the opening <br>plenary by David Crystal in the Old Ceremonial Theatre of the University <br>of Oslo (also in the city centre). Participants are required to register <br>for the main conference, but attendance at the workshops is free. Please <br>indicate on the registration form if you intend to attend the <br>conference. The conference website is at:<br><br> http://www.hf.uio.no/ilos/english/research/conferences/2011/icame2011/index.html<br><br>Discussion of the proposition is also welcome on this list!<br><br>-- <br>Martin Wynne<br>Research Technologies Service&<br>Oxford e-Research Centre<br><br>Oxford University Computing Services<br>7-19 Banbury Road<br>Oxford<br>UK - OX2 6NN<br>Tel: +44 1865 283299 or +44 1865 610677<br>Fax: +44 1865 273275<br>martin.wynne@oucs.ox.ac.uk<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Corpora mailing list<br>Corpora@uib.no<br>http://mailman.uib.no/listinfo/corpora<br></div></body></html>