<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Angus Grieve-Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grvsmth@panix.com">grvsmth@panix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div>Russell continues:'IT IS A LANGUAGE THAT HAS ONLY
SYNTAX AND NO VOCABULARY WHATSOEVER.(My
emphasis). Barring the omission of a vocabulary I
maintain that it is quite a nice language. It aims at
being the sort of language that, if you add a
vocabulary, would be a logically perfect language.' He
adds that actual languages are not logically perfect in
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Then it's not a language, it's a model of a language. I'm sure
it's a very nice model, and useful for all sorts of purposes. But
Gödel showed that in general models can never completely capture
reality, </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, he didn't.</div><div><br></div><div> | One of the biggest mistakes a scientist can make
is to reify their own model. It is a dangerous form of hubris that
can lead science off course for generations.</div><div><br></div><div>And an even bigger mistake that scientists can make is to misunderstand what they read and then misapply it in a completely inappropriate way in a totally wrong discipline.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Godel showed that a formal system capable of doing arithmetic perfectly cannot be both complete and consistent. Since human beings are not formal systems, this is of limited application. In particular, we know for independent reasons that a) humans can't do arithmetic perfectly, b) humans aren't consistent, and c) humans aren't "complete" (as they have limitations like finite attention spans and finite lifetimes). </div>
<div><br></div><div>So, Godel's theorem only shows that if human beings were something we know they're not, they would have properties that we have already known them to have.</div></div>