Not to forget the fact that getting a visa from countries like India to the US or to Europe is a project in itself. And it costs quite something. And if the visa is rejected after all that time, effort and expenditure... Rejection of visa is not rare at all: for the US (where a substantial proportion of the highest profile conferences are held) the rate is very high, especially for gradutate students.<div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Anil Singh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anil.phdcl@gmail.com">anil.phdcl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I mostly agree on this point, except that this is quite a radical proposal and can be implemented only in the long term. We will need a lot of good quality journal to replace conference proceedings. Will be these be printed or purely online? Will those purely online considered to have the same credibility as those printed (why not?)?<div>
<br></div><div>The cost of attending a conference/workshop is, of course, a major hurdle for all researchers in developing countries. Nowadays even registration fee is so high that it is hard to afford it (say, in India) just for one author, even if no one travels abroad to attend the event and present the paper. And no solution for this is in sight (never mind the Emerging Economy, New Economic Powerhouses etc.). We are clearly being told explicity to not try to publish in conferences, but to try for journals (students by supervisors and administration, teachers/researchers by administrations and funding agencies). Easy to say, but how many journals are out there for the whole of CL/NLP (as compared to the number conferences and workshops)?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Still, shifting to journals from conferences (for publication) is something that has to happen in CL/NLP.</div><div><br></div><div>The academic evaluation forms (in India at least) give a much higher weightage to journal publications than to conference publications, which is a big disadvantage for those working in CL/NLP under the current situation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Of course, as even Church (2005) had hinted, there is practical problem involved. Conference publications mean registrations and registrations mean $$. Where will the money for the journals come from? Who will sponsor them? If commercial publishers publish them, won't other factors come in which might affect their cridibility?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just some doubts. But generally I support the idea.<br><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Gemma Boleda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gemma.boleda@upf.edu" target="_blank">gemma.boleda@upf.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Dear list members,<br>
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some of the concerns that have been raised in this discussion, such as reviewer load and "incrementality" in papers, could be addressed if the field moved to journal, rather than conference, publishing, and used conferences for dissemination of ideas (where only abstracts would be reviewed) and journals for actual publication. This would have the positive side-effect of making the citation indices of computational linguistics as a subfield go up, thus making it more visible in the "scientific market". For a 1.5-page long elaboration of these ideas, see <a href="http://www.lsi.upc.edu/~gboleda/pubs/gboleda_publishingCL.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lsi.upc.edu/~<u></u>gboleda/pubs/gboleda_<u></u>publishingCL.pdf</a><br>
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Best,<br><font color="#888888">
Gemma Boleda</font><div><div></div><div><br>
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