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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Ted – a very interesting article, and an interesting suggestion…
<span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I know that some journals are now starting to publish ‘the best of’ compilations,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">based on number of downloads…:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://top25.sciencedirect.com/subject/arts-and-humanities/2/journal/journal-of-pragmatics/03782166/archive/30">http://top25.sciencedirect.com/subject/arts-and-humanities/2/journal/journal-of-pragmatics/03782166/archive/30</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.educationarena.com/journalPromotions/mostDownloaded/classof2011/">http://www.educationarena.com/journalPromotions/mostDownloaded/classof2011/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why not publish all submitted articles, ranked by reviewers/editors/committees/publishers perhaps
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(rather like the ‘recommended reading lists’ that we issue to students?),
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">but all equally available for public attention and discussion?
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<p class="MsoNormal">best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ramesh Krishnamurthy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Visiting Academic Fellow, School of Languages and Social Sciences, Aston University, Birmingham B4 7ET<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Room: NX01. Tel: 0121-204-3812. <br>
Director, ACORN (Aston Corpus Network project): <a href="http://acorn.aston.ac.uk/">
<span style="color:blue">http://acorn.aston.ac.uk/</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Corpus Analyst:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(a) GeWiss (Volkswagen Foundation) project: <a href="http://www1.aston.ac.uk/lss/research/research-projects/gewiss-spoken-academic-discourse/">
<span style="color:blue">http://www1.aston.ac.uk/lss/research/research-projects/gewiss-spoken-academic-discourse/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(b) Discourse of Climate Change: <a href="http://www1.aston.ac.uk/lss/research/research-projects/discourse-of-climate-change-project/">
<span style="color:blue">http://www1.aston.ac.uk/lss/research/research-projects/discourse-of-climate-change-project/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(c) Feminism: <a href="http://acorn.aston.ac.uk/projects.html">
<span style="color:blue">http://acorn.aston.ac.uk/projects.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(d) COMENEGO (Corpus Multilingüe de Economía y Negocios) - Multilingual Corpus of Business and Economics:
<a href="http://dti.ua.es/comenego"><span style="color:blue">http://dti.ua.es/comenego</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(e) European Phraseology Project: <a href="http://labidiomas3.ua.es/phraseology/login/login.php">
<span style="color:blue">http://labidiomas3.ua.es/phraseology/login/login.php</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:12:38 -0500<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Ted Pedersen <<a href="mailto:tpederse@d.umn.edu">tpederse@d.umn.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] why LREC2012 NOT blind-reviewed?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: "<a href="mailto:corpora@uib.no">corpora@uib.no</a>" <<a href="mailto:corpora@uib.no">corpora@uib.no</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Greetings all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Another alternative that might not have been mentioned in this far ranging discussion is the idea of crowd sourcing peer review. As a community we are now coming to rely (somewhat) on crowd sourced data, so why not crowd sourced reviewing?
;) I say that somewhat tongue in cheek, although if it's good enough for our data...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">In any case, here's a NYT article discussing this a bit with respect to the humanities...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/arts/24peer.html?_r=1">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/arts/24peer.html?_r=1</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">A related model, I think, is simply to have a pre-print archive where everyone uploads their latest and greatest work, and then let world decide impact and merit via downloads and subsequent citations. That may not work well for folks
who need tenure committees to evaluate them, but it does cut out the very expensive and time consuming review process that often results in quite a few papers in a distinguished proceedings (like ACL, etc.) that are relatively uncited and have fairly low impact
despite the rigorous review process they survived.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">My understanding is that the physics community operates a bit like this with
<a href="http://arxiv.org/">http://arxiv.org/</a> In fact there was a time when I submitted papers to arxiv but that was usually after acceptance at a conference.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">In some sense you could think of our current publication model as a sort of controlled upload to a pre-print archive (the ACL Anthology).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This represents a kind of safety net for authors, where a paper that is accepted at ACL etc. will be impressive to a tenure committee whether or not it is cited much and has much impact. If the only papers that "counted" for tenure or
promotion were those that had a lot of downloads or citations...well, that would probably change things quite a bit. I suspect we'd write fewer papers and maybe be a bit less incremental. That sounds good, although I'm sure there are many other side effects
I'm not considering.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Cordially,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Ted<o:p></o:p></p>
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