Mark mentions the possibility of AI-spawned rational agents contributing to the design of language learning technologies. Let me say something about that, at least wrt second language acquisition/learning. (Sorry this is ignoring Mark's original question. And what follows is not at all aimed at Mark.)<br>
<br>To me, the current area in which to look for breakthroughs in language acquisition research (at least the kind that hopes to be relevant to educators in trying to foster language acquisition) is research that <u>enriches</u> the scope of contextual factors that matter to situated, human learners, not research that further decontextualizes its 'models' of learning (scrubbing them clean of the messy variables that muck up the research design). In my experience, the most lamentable aspect of efforts to create 'assistive technologies for learners' is the development of such technologies in sanitized, lab-like conditions (or in the sanitized conditions of certain technologists' own minds) without the benefit of any front-line classroom experience with living, breathing learners or teachers (or parents or administrators). I have spent a hefty chunk of my academic life trying to develop technologies that assist in language learning, so I'm all for it. But my own quirky main conclusion from all these years is that the stuff which is designed and made in 'idealized' conditions is often hopelessly detached from what would take hold in actual learning ecologies, and because of that, it won't 'scale up' beyond the stage of lab toys). What portion of teachers who allow their students to be used as subjects in testing out these technologies are glad when it's over and, short of coercion, would never touch the stuff again . R&D efforts in language learning technology, need from the earliest stages, more 'anthropologists' and 'ethnographers' and teachers from the 'trenches' where the technologies are hoping to make a contribution, not more decontextualized, sanitized models of language acquisition.<br>
<br>Maybe there will be a day when AI's rational agents can feel peer pressure, can feel 'face' and loss of 'face', the urge to be a member of a social group, a day when an AI rational agent draws its very identity from the 'culture' it 'belongs to', (or, for that matter, can feel an identity of any sort) and can 'feel' the high 'personal' (robotic?) stakes of stepping out of that cultural identity to risk entry into a different one, risk being rejected, experience being excluded or admitted to that 'speech community' based on ones competence in using another language. (To me, these human attributes are central rather than peripheral to explanations of (2nd) language learning.) When that day comes, when AI's rational agents can be designed with those attributes, then I'll be the first to want them in my R&D team developing language learning technologies. Until then, where are the anthropologists (and where are the....(fill in the blank; who else do we need to join in our efforts?)!<br>
<br>Sorry to ramble.<br><br>David Wible,<br>National Central University<br>Taiwan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mark Lybrand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mlybrand@gmail.com">mlybrand@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Okay, so this is probably not a "corpora" issue. Forgive me please, as I am an NLP piker. The question that is plaguing me right now is if there is any research in using AI to mimic language acquistion. Rather, have there been attempts made to create a rational agent that uses typical human strategies to learn a new language. It would seem that such an approach could be helpful in creating assistive technologies for learners of a foreign language. Can you guys steer me in the right direction?<br>
<br>Thanks. Feel free to just ignore me altogether if this is completely OT.<br clear="all"><font color="#888888"><br>-- <br>Mark :)<br>
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