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Dear All, <br>
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I agree with what has been written. What is published is published.
<br>
<br>
However, ever sent in a project proposal which was rejected, and
later finding it recycled? Borrowing ideas and taking them on is a
nasty phenomenon that is not new, cannot be easily stopped, but
happens far too often. There is a great deal of short term memory
about and the difference between heavily inspired and downright
plagiarism is a thin one. A post doc of mine pointed out a case of
plagiarism recently and was told by the inspired persons that they
had changed the statistical measure, so the reuse of the concept did
not need acknowledgement. Does it cost so much to give a reference?<br>
<br>
We had a bad case of plagiarism in our university recently, and no
action was taken, so as to avoid a scandal. Same has happened
elsewhere in France. We preach one thing to students, and then let
real academic plagiarism go unchallenged. This is not good.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Geoffrey<br>
<br>
Le 22/05/2012 11:47, Gill Philip a écrit :
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type="cite">Dear Fatimah, corpora readers,<br>
<br>
The question really does concern what is and what is not public,
as Mike said earlier.<br>
Independently of who has done the research, or who has paid for
it, if the work has been published (in the widest sense, including
conference presentations, working papers, e-prints as well as
paper-print journals and books) then anyone can do what they want
with it... provided that they cite the source.<br>
<br>
If the work has *not* been published, but has been made available
in confidence (to supervisors, journal editors, peer reviewers,
etc) and is then published - presumably without the permission of
nor reference to the original author - then that would almost
certainly be illegitimate. One exception would be if the research
is part of a larger project in which work is expected to be shared
between participants in that project.<br>
<br>
Unfortunately plagiarism happens, and the victims are usually
young/beginning researchers who do not yet have a network of
colleagues to defend their interests. I sincerely hope your
question was just theoretical.<br>
<br>
best,<br>
Gill<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 May 2012 11:05, fatima zuhra <span
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<p>Hi all,</p>
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<p>If someone is assigned a research project by some
organization (who is paying money for that), can
he/she use other's research work, data or
methodology without the permission of the
researcher? And moreover, claim it to be the
developer teams' own work?</p>
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<p>Thanks. <br>
</p>
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<div> IN my opinion, yes. If you make
something public (publishing) you cannot
pick & choose who will use that idea or
those data. Similarly you cannot have back a
gift once given. <br>
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Cheers -- Mike<br>
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<p>I want to ask a question. If
some scholar's work is
published, can anyone use that
work for a developmental project
without the scholar's
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