<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Tajweed, or sometimes Tajwid, refers to the rules for reciting the Koran- pronunciation, rhythm and such. There is no reason for most non Muslims to know about this and it is a more involved issue than simple belief and unbelief. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 6, 2013, at 3:23 PM, "Otto Lassen" <<a href="mailto:otto@lassen.mail.dk">otto@lassen.mail.dk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">Eric Atwell<span style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </span>started a discussion 28.2 about how
</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">vocabulary related
to Islam figures in British dictionaries </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">and corpora.
</font></span><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">He found one word, "tajweed", which did not figure.</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">But there are many
islamic words in the dictionaries </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">and many which are
not in the dictionaries, so I wonder</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">how the choice of
including / excluding words is made </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">and what are the
effect of this choice on the users?</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">I tried with
another word, "kafir" (or “kaffir”), which </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">means infidel,
</font></span><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">disbeliever, unbeliever.</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">You find it in the
online versions of Oxford English Dictionary </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">and Collins English
Dictionary but not in Longman </font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">Dicitionary of
Contemporary English nor in British National Corpus.</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">The encyclopedias
(Britannica, Wikipedia) have it naturally.</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">So why is "kafir"
better represented than "tajweed"?</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">A proposal for a solution could be
that "kafir" is used in </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">the Qur'an many times. In Shakir's
translation there are </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">400 hits for disbeliev.. and
unbeliev..... For every 3 pages </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">2 has them The contrast between
believers and </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">unbelievers is in that way basic for
the Qur'an and </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">for its influence on the readers.
Unbelievers are described </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">very negatively. The concept of
"kafir" is part of the belief </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">of the 5% muslims in </span><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">England</span><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"> but must be known by
</span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">everybody because it concerns all.
Therefore the </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">choice of "kafir" to the
dictionaries. “Tajweed" tells only</span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB">how to recite verses from the
Qur’an.</span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">But this may not be
the only explanation of the choice</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">of including /
excluding islamic words in dictionaries.</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">Regards</font></span></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language: en-gb" lang="EN-GB"><font face="Arial">Otto
Lassen</font></span></p></div></div>
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